Let Me Lay a Hand on Yo Wallet!

November 7th, 2007

Mega-church leaders Bishop Eddie Long and Creflo Dollar are two of six mega-church leaders under investigation by an Iowa senator who plans to sift through their financials, just to make sure there’s no shadiness goin’ on.  

“I’m following up on complaints from the public and news coverage regarding certain practices at six ministries,” says Sen. Chuck Grassley. ”The allegations involve governing boards that aren’t independent and allow generous salaries and housing allowances and amenities such as private jets and Rolls Royces. I don’t want to conclude that there’s a problem, but I have an obligation to donors and the taxpayers to find out more.”

Umhmmm…

Do you have a problem with the lavish lifestyles of super-church leaders? Are the private jets and premium cars too excessive?

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shajay said on November 7th, 2007

those men have huge congregations and obviously their church members must think that they are doing a great job at leading the church and bringing people to hear the word of god. They are blessed and should be able to ride what they want too and live a great life as long as they are doing what they are supose to be doing with their church. Can i get an Amen?……

AJ said on November 7th, 2007

SHAJAY U NAILED IT ON THE HEAD, BUT IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE SOME WRONG DOING GOING ON THEN YEAH THEY SHOULD BE EXPOSED, OBVIOUSLY THEIR CONGREGATION IS SUPPORTING THEM AND NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE A CHURCH HOME AND BEING FED THE WORD OF GOD.

Michael said on November 7th, 2007

I think they are wrong when they have members in their congregations who are barely making ends meet and they are driving Bentleys and driving Rolls Royces. How bout they help those people and pay a bill or two, My grandfather is a preacher and I grew up in the church and I think they are just doing to much. Now I know they but in lots of hours and desire some of the finer things in life but when is it to much.

LaTaveya said on November 7th, 2007

since when do we have to put a limit on what GOD blesses us with? that is crazy! my uncle is a pastor and he was well of before he started preaching is he suppose to downgrade so members should feel better? or should he be an example of what GOD can bless you with? the world is really being nosey and the members are hating because things areall that lavish for them but i believe if you live right you will be blessed just like they are.

SHIRELLE said on November 7th, 2007

I think that they should help the church members get the help they need once a mth. and help give food and cloths for the hoildays for those who can’t give their child a good gift of life . i think they need to slow down and stop taking the money and living their life like they are rich using Gods money i hope they are paying 10% of their money to God. I think it is wrong and sad to do that but I am not the one to be the judge.

PASTOR KYLE said on November 7th, 2007

ME BEING A PASTOR FEEL THAT IT REALLY SHOULDNT MATTER WHAT THE PASTORS ARE DRIVING OUR HOW THEY ARE LIVING WHY DONT WE GO AFTER THE REAL ISSUSE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PUSH TO THE SIDE WHAT ABOUT THE GOV THAT HAS THE POWER TO LOWER THE RATES OF TAXES AND PLACE RENT CONTROL WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE THAT IS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE DONT WANT TO WORK NO MORE THEY PEOPLE TO HAND THINGS TO THEM I SAY THIS THAT IF INDEED THESE AWSOME MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD ARE LIVING A LIE BEST BELEIVE THAT GOD WILL PUT THERE BUSINESS OUT THERE LIKE HE HAVE DONE BEFORE WITH THESE SO CALLED MEN OF GOD; I FEEL THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD REALIZE THAT THE PEOPLE OF GOD FEEL THAT THE MEN OF GOD IS MAKIN A IMPROVMENT IN THRE LIFE AND THEY WANT TO SHOW THEM HOW THEY LOVE THEM SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO SHOW WITH THERE MONEY WHO ARE WE TO HATE IF LONG AND DALLOR WAS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW I WILL SPEAK THIS WORD INTO THERE LIFE “THE WORD OF GOD SAYS HE WILL MAKE THE HATERS YOUR STEPPING PLATE, SO YALL JUST GET READY TO GO TO WHERE GOD IS ABOUT TO TAKE YOU, YOU THINK THEY ARE AT MEGA NOW YOU KEEP WATCHING”

Tracie said on November 7th, 2007

Men and women of God are to be blessed people, we all are(those who accept Christ), but many are called and few are chosen. They are living their lives how God wants them to and making examples of them. Who is going to follow a broke pastor? I don’t think these pastors are doing anything wrong. I’m a member of WWCI and I love Pastor Dollar. I have been blessed financially and spritually since attending his church and I’m going to continue attending his church. Just like LaTaveya stated “if you live right you will be blessed just like they are”. Instead of hating, join the bandwagon and watch God move in your life.

TANISHA said on November 7th, 2007

WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE WHAT THESE GREAT MEN OF GOD DO WITH THERE MONEY. WE AS A CONGOGRATION SHOULD WANT TO SEE OUR MINISTER DRIVING IN NICE CARS.GOD
WORD SAID “I HAVE PREPARED A PLACE FOR YOU WHERE THERE ARE MANY MANSIONS”SO WHY CAN’T WE LIVE THE WAY GOD HAS IT PREPARED IN HEAVEN.SATAN HATES TO SEE GOD PEOPLE TO PROSPER.AS A CHURCH ALL OVER THE WORLD STAND BY GODS PEOPLE AND WATCH GOD SHOW OUT ON THE DEVIL!AS CHRISTIANS PUT ON YOUR ARMOR BECAUSE WHEN ONE BEING ATTACK WE ALL AT WAR!!!!!

Denise said on November 7th, 2007

I believe that GOD is an AWESOME GOD who rewards HIS children.All PASTORS if they are in the will of GOD will live the good life because that is what GOD our FATHER has told us in HIS WORD as referred to the B.I.B.L.E. FINAL THOUGHT: The world will be the world and think like the world until the get the mind of CHRIST.

Pastor said on November 7th, 2007

Well, I believe the focus shouldn’t be soley on the mega-church ministers but what kind of fruit have they caused to grow in others lives since their ministries have existed. There should be accountability systems set in place no matter how large or small the ministry. Christian are individuals who are striving to manifest Christ on the earth. So our standards of living should reflect our relationship with Christ.

The questions should be, how many people are gainfully employed because of the ministries existence? Has the community where their churches are domicled been impacted enough that the quality of life in that community has been enhanced? What does their total ministry budget support; i.e personnel, missions, aids awareness, substance abuse programs, youth programs, housing programs, mentoring programs etc.

We have to remember that these types of ministries have been able, to some degree, marry business and spiritual life together. So if their are standards of integrity, morality and character for the CEO of Fortune 500 companies then those leaders in the body of Christ should lead the way and even surpass worldly standards.

These are just a few thoughts to ponder. The body of Christ has too long allowed the world to be the judge and set our standards. Let’s get in our rightful places and deal with each other by the rule of God that will bring humility and understanding not humiliation and confusion.

Peace

Keeping It Real said on November 7th, 2007

This is how I feel about it.
I dont knock the Pastor for brainwashing (Thats what I call it) his people, but if they(THe Church) are to dumb to give that money so they can be broke, and the Pastor is in a nice ride, then it’s up to them. I am not givng nobody money to support their expensive living habits, if I am struggling, so Pastors get your hustle on, but you wont get no more than my 10%.

Hiram Abiff said on November 7th, 2007

like Dr. Carter G. Woodson once said “Anyone can join the Christian Ministry”……these are deserve to be put under the jail………..how can you rob the poor just to but a nice house and car? like i said, christians are dumb slow thinking people……when will y’all see through the Hustle of the Ministry Game? how many women do these so called Pastors/Leaders *#%$? on a daily basis, oh yeah they *#%$? men to, while sitting in a hotel room smoking crack ;-}

True That said on November 7th, 2007

A christian should not live in extremes i.e. poverty or extreme luxury. Jesus came that we would have life and have it more abundantly, however there is something very vulgar about extreme bling.

Hiram Abiff said on November 7th, 2007

try asking your Pastor for money to pay bills when your down on your luck, and watch him/her tell you to go pray. this stuff is crazy, man like i dont even have words for these cats…..most Ministries and Pastors operate as Master Manipulators which is a form of WITCHCRAFT……..these Pastors emasculate the men so that they can @*$@# their wives……..a Pastor is a MAN and not a god ;-{

Danetta said on November 7th, 2007

We are so caught up on outer appearances. We place too much value on the car someone drives, what designer made the suit or dress someone is wearing. Personally, when I’m watching or listening to a minister teaching the word of God I don’t want to see bling and some fancy pimp suit and manicured nails, etc… and theatricals… and being told to “turn to my neighbor and tell them this or that” or turn around five times and shout two times or whatever.”
Whatever happened to ministers being humble and not so self-centered?
This is just my opiion, but I say, sale the mansions and fancy cars. Take the money and build homes for some of these homeless people walking aimlessly around the city. Build free clinics for all these people who don’t have health insurance. Or, Ministers… open up the doors to your mansion and minster (not from behind camera lenses on Sunday morning) but across your diningroom table to young children with incarcarated parents. Use your private jet to fly some poor people somewhere for free…just because.
When I hear about men of God living in mansions and driving expensive cars….and I see/hear about people losing homes, living on the street, or can bearing feed their children…something is wrong with that. My conscious wouldn’t let me sleep. Again, this is just my point of veiw. It probably don’t mean nothing to nobody but me.

Hiram Abiff said on November 7th, 2007

Ministers are no longer humble………these cats are full of pride and arrogance……….anyone can rent a Store Front and start preaching the word………anyway is the Bible the Word of God, or the Word of Man about God? the Preaching Game is a low start up business, for the people pay the Pastors to teach them out of a Bible they themselve bought from the dollar store………..this is the Sweetest Comeup ever in history……..i’m going to Bible School so that i can be a Pastor, betta yet, i’ll just rent a Store Front, do flips in the pulpit, tell people to name it and claim it…………and watch the money pile up ;-{

Shannon said on November 7th, 2007

The bible says, in Revelation 3:14 the following; and this is Jesus Christ addressing HIS church…He says the following: “I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot, I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm–neither hot nor cold–I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing. But yo do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.” WE in the U.S. are all of these. The church–the body of people who have REPENTED, which means to change your mind and allow the Holy Spirit to turn your heart from following the ways of sin and follow the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE–Jesus Christ–we’re a sad bunch. We believe the hype about rich, wealthy, and never sick teaching. READ your bible from Genesis to Revelation–please! Tell my fellow sisters and brothers in Nigera who weeks ago had their churches burned, CHILDREN murdered and injured all because they dare to name the name of Jesus Christ that they aren’t blessed. They have no homes, no Rolls Royces, no Bentley. My bible says, to suffer for doing what is RIGHTEOUS is a part of following Christ. However, to suffer for doing wrong…well you’re just getting what you deserve. Tell my sisters who dare to share the love of Christ in India where there is open hostility and is physically dangerous to do so that they aren’t blessed by the Lord and favored. Tell the pastor who was beaten up for SIMPLY praying in his church in India that he is somehow less of a follower or believer in the Christ who SUFFERED to bring salvation and eternal life to ALL. Tell the woman who’s husband’s throat was slit in Turkey because he was a part of a Christian group that was printing tracks to hand out and she was quoted on the cover of the Turkish newspaper saying “Father forgive them because they didn’t know what they are doing”. She said she prays the Lord will somehow use her husband’s murder to bring people to Christ. The bible says, “what will a man give in exchange for his soul?” Well, in America souls sell real cheap!!! And then we dress it up send it to church on Sunday OR put it in the pulpit and call it “Christian and Pastor”. Men and women who REALLY name the name of Christ are suffering for that name. Tell the Chinese in the underground churches who meet secretly just to read the bible and pray with one another that they are somehow “less” acknowledged or “blessed” by God because they lack material wealth. The last time I checked the bible said, “everything in THIS world was passing away, but God’s Word would stand forever!” The world is laughing at the church in America because we look like a bunch of well dressed, wealthy, and healthy heathens!!! We’re divorcing and fighting all on t.v. and giving people in the world lots of material of which to mock God. Oh, but He said, He would not be mocked!! He said what a man sows He will reap. Don’t think you gonna plant watermelon seeds and HOPE and CLAIM an orange because that ain’t happening SAINTS. I believe the Lord has given us time to repent in the church and it hasn’t happened. When the priests in Israel got stanky the Lord dealt with them and He ain’t changed! CHURCH, get your act together and clean it up! He said, he coming back for a bride without a spot or a wrinckle. Marantha!! (For those who don’t read your bible and only refer to it to CLAIM the PROMISES that means, “Come quickly Lord Jesus”) One last thing…here’s a promise for all my fellow believers who love to claim the promises…here’s something to chew on. All of the original disciples were martyred for their faith in Christ except two. Judas because he was a traitor and coward. He hung himself. John died a natural death. He also wrote the book of Revelation. Read it sometime–read Ezekial 38 & 39 too…it’s almost like reading today’s newspaper. Peace y’all! Christ without compromise.

Hiram Abiff said on November 7th, 2007

Shannon, no one with good sense is going to read your long blog “Boo-Boo the Fool” you quote many scriptures, i bet your the type of Brother who masturbates all the time, then pass judgements on people of actually stick pieholes, get a life and stop kidding yourself lol ;-}

Jennifer said on November 7th, 2007

This is one reason why I don’t go to church. All that extravagence is just too much for me. I grew up in the Catholic church and there wasn’t all that “extra-ness.” You came, prayed and after an hour, you went home. I don’t like the idea of pastors having Bentley’s and private jets…for what??? If you’re a “person of God” you don’t need all that to “spread the Gospel.”

Demitra said on November 7th, 2007

I concur shannon, Jesus walked the streets among whoremongers and thieves, he wasn’t chauffered around in a chariot, he did not wear gold peices around his neck or fingers.. That being said i do believe God wants us to live in prosperity but there are times when riches become ostentatious, offensive and repulsive. Here in houston a certain pastor rides a helicopter from one church in one area of houston to another, but when one of his parishioners needed help with rent, that person was told they could not be helped util at least a few days, but the money did not come.

I believe that if your ministry rakes in millions where you are allowed to live in mansions and drive bentleys, your work at that community should be as grand…

Braun said on November 8th, 2007

I think Pastors , Preachers Whatever you wanna call these phoney men of “God” are not REAL. I call them America`s Pharisees cos thats what they are! . Jesus led a simple life and we can say he had a following surpassing the thousands so YES JEsus had a MEGA-Church. But what did he ride ?? A DONKEY!! He could have riden the best Stallion in town.. He fed 5000. I would wanna see these Mega Churches go out and freely provide for 5000 poor. I`m tired of the CHurch !
Jesus was against the buying and selling that was happening in GOD`s house . I bet if Jesus came back today, His reaction to the Mcdonald, ATMs etc at church premises won`t be any different.
On a personal note , I couldn`t care any less if a pastor rides Rolls Royce or a private jet. Thats the reward of his hussle. Hussle on Pastors! And let the Dumb followers pay your bills!! But remember the words of Jesus.. ” It is harder for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.”

Elijah B said on November 8th, 2007

I think it’s funny how people say “Read your Bible” and thisis the same thing these Men and Women of God teach from everyday. I pray that one of you critics would read 1st or 2nd Corinthians 9, the story of Elisha and the widow woman or even understand that the Bible never says Christ wanted for anything. In fact when it first mentions Mary of Magdalene(Luke 8) she and others were ministering to him out of their substance. What more can you give a man than hope. Even if the Bible was a lie it still gives people hope. These men and women preach a message of hope and benefit. Praise God for them. Besides it takes $9 million dollars a month to run Creflo Dollar Ministries. Why? Because it’s not just hope in America he has ophanages and free health clinics and is building homes for free all over the world. Praise JaH(PSALMS 68)

PHYLLIS said on November 8th, 2007

Hiram Abiff it seems you need to check your self. You are passing off a lot of judgement and making comments that are unfit.

Antonio said on November 8th, 2007

Abraham, David, Solomon and the nation of Israel as a whole when they were obedient were all blessed materially. Duet 28 lays out serious blessing in the OT that most NT believers don’t come close to living in. Which is funny because we are suppose to be in a new covenant with better promises. Instead we are in debt and don’t own anything. In the OT physical blessing was measured in cattle, land, gold silver and crops. Although it is the 21st century and we don’t live in an agricultural society the blessing still applies and fits with our cultural context. I am aware of the Ministries that are being looked into. They all pour millions of dollars back into the kingdom of God and touch people worldwide. Although that fact is hardly ever mentioned…Bottom line what did Jesus say…Ill tell you…he never had a problem with wealth, if he did he would have said the blessing portion of Duet 28 and 8:18 no longer applied. What Jesus addressed was stewardship and integrity of heart. He must be first in front of everything. So if you have proven faithful and are not in bondage to wealth he has no problem with you being a billionaire. Most of the ministries under question own there sanctuaries and are not in debt, therefore the income they get goes back into furthering the kingdom. Most churches are in debt and don’t have the resources to do much damage to the darkness around them.. Coca cola and Pepsi has evangelized the whole world in less than 100 years and the church has had 2000 years and is still behind what’s the difference ,Money. Also, God is not on a budget he owns everything… so a pastor having expensive things doesn’t put a drain on the kingdom storehouse… If God wanted to he could end poverty right now. My prayer is Lord give me a pure and dedicated heart so that I can enjoy the blessings you give me and be able to at drop of a dime give them up for the kingdom!

Antonio said on November 8th, 2007

A word for the lady who mentioned the persecuted churches. I agree on one point. We in America need some persecution, it would make us more dedicated…However, just because there are places that don’t seem to be prospering within their cultural context doesn’t mean it is not the word or will of God. We can’t base our doctrine on experience. There are heaven bound Jesus loving Christians who do great work for the kingdom who don’t believe God heals anymore. The bible states that all believers are to do the works of Jesus (john 14:12) and the testimony of millions of people worldwide attest that Jesus is still healing. Are we to say Healing no longer occurs because there are well meaning heaven bound people who don’t believe in or experience divine healing. Not at all ,we go by the word and not peoples lack of experience. There is also Spiritual warfare to consider. Many of these nations have been under the dominance of principalities and powers since the fall of Adam. And trust me they hate humans so keeping them impoverished is a joy for them. (Yes, God is still moving and doing a great thing despite the conditions that these people face, Romans 8:28)Another key point to consider is cultural context. In certain places the blessings of God will be abundant crops, supernatural cattle reproduction and so on. In others it will be great investment returns and a nice house or car. I recommended getting a tape series called transformations by George Otis. It chronicles cities and nations that have had spiritual awakenings that effected not only just the souls of men but the economic structures of the cities or nations involved. Lastly it is because of the abundant wealth of our country over the last three hundred years that has spurred the Gospel being preached through out the world. Once again my Prayer is for God to give me an pure and dedicated heart that will enjoy his blessings but at a drop of a dime give them up for the work of the Kingdom.

dlo805 said on November 8th, 2007

Yo who cares what these dudes is doin.In the end God will no who”s true and who’s not.What if you were so mad that a preacher had a jet, but he was the first one to fly to a place that was hit with a flood to bring food and aid.Preachers cant do that without a jet.Only God knows the heart.So how many souls have u won latley.Let’s stop talkin bout them, let’s talk to every one criticizing.Have u won anyone to the LORD latley.

dlo805 said on November 8th, 2007

IF NOT SHUT UP…………………….

kevin martin said on November 8th, 2007

NO weapon form againts them shell prosper.SOME paster don”t except a salary from the church.THEIR salary is base what their members give.GOD

Bro Jay said on November 8th, 2007

I don’t know, this is a tough one,I don’t see
these maga preachers in jena marching,I don’t see
them indorsing the blackout to show that we have
the spending power, and we won’t tolerate alot of
the injustice that going on.I only see them in the
poolpit, and I love most all the ministers, but
some seem so flamboyant.Is it me or do you fill
it something wrong with the picture above,
with bishop long, inside his white bently.
I think that a bently,I hate to say, he look like a baller.That why I love the REV AL SHARPTON,
AND JESSIE JACKSON,they seems to bring the talk to the people,to the streets,they seem to be theaten alot, because they seem to fight for
the people,and I’m quite sure they live comfortably, but they least seem to be doing the
work of the CHRIST.Stab,put in jail,hit by rocks
all for the juctise of the people,in the name
of the CHRIST…I just don’t see T.D JAKE’S,BISHOP EDDIE LONG,JOYCE MEYERS,JOEL OLSTEEN
JUNITA BYNUM ETC out there helping the people.
I’m not talking about prison minestries,or work
in africa ……

Red-Pill Gee said on November 8th, 2007

To judge the Shepard look at the sheep.

If the sheep are half cared for and the Shepard is overwhelmingly comfortable…..I have a problem with that.

How is it that the preacher has all the right angles on prosperity ‘Blessings’ yet share nothing of how to go about it with the congregation. Form financial groups to instill good money management. Tell your congregation to stop spending what they don’t have to look good for people who aren’t helping them pay for it…etc,etc

I am so tired of hearing….”plant your last seed in the church coffers and watch what Jesus will do” All you see are members hoping and praying for a miracle and the Shepard cashing in at the bank every Monday.

KHYLA said on November 8th, 2007

LISTEN PSALMS 37:4 SAYS:

DELIGHT THYSELF ALSO IN THE LORD AND HE SHALL GIVE THEE THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART.

THESE PEOPLE WORK VERY HARD TO PROMOTE THE WORD OF GOD.

THEREFORE, GOD IS BLESSING THEM WITH WHAT THEY DESERVE.

(IF) THEY ARE “ALLEGEDLY” DOIN WAT THE SENATOR FROM IOWA STATES…THEN MY OPINION IS, THE SENATOR SHOULD FIRST FIND ANY PROOF AND THEN EXPOSE THEM…

BUT TO EXPOSE THEM AND HE STILL DOESNT HAVE FACT….THTAS WRONG AND I FEEL HE’S A HATER!!!JEALOUS, ENVIOUS AND MORE..

MY GOODNESS WOE TO THE SENATOR IF HE COMES BACK WITHOUT PROOF.

FURTHERMORE, PEOPLE U HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT PREACHERS, PASTORS, MINISTER ETC.. ARE HUMAN AND ARE SURE TO MAKE MISTAKES.

LETS NOT BE SO QUIK TO JUDGE. FOR THE WAY U JUDGE PEOPLE WILL BE THE WAY U WILL BE SURELY JUDGED.

THE SENATOR SAYS: HE OWES IT TO THE PEOPLE…PLEASE!!! WHAT HE SHOULD BE WORRY ABOUT IS ALL THE HUNGRY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, THE WARS, THE CRIMES, RACISM, ECT…

REMEMBER MR. SENATOR OF IOWA…YOUR DAY WILL COME OF BEING EXPOSE AND WENT IT COMES, MY GOODNESS I WILL PRAY 4 U….

PRAYERFULLY, SINCERELY~~~KHYLA*SINGS*4*GOD

http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/EVANGELREVIVALTIMECHURCH

ms_floeticfemme said on November 8th, 2007

WHOM ARE WE TO JUDGE THESE MEN?

..WHEN THEY DIE…AND STAND BEFORE CHRIST JESUS, THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO HIM, AND THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO HIM, IF HE (OR SHE)..YESS..THERE ARE FEMALE PASTORS..BUT THEY WILL ALL HAVE TO ANSWER TO GOD, IF THEY ARE TAKING AND ABUSING GODS MONEY…

WHEN DID WE BECOME GOD?..FOR US TO JUDGE?

LORD HELP US ALL
…ALL SIN COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD

Hiram Abiff said on November 8th, 2007

its a stupid concept for us to say DONT JUDGE the Passa……….get yo mind right, Passa been screwing us for years……..and PHYLLIS you need to be shot, just another dumb religious zealot who gives her FOODSTAMPS on Sunday, lol………wonder where was your god when Black Folks in this Country were Slaves, Raped, and Murdered? think outside the box you MORON……….Religion has destroyed the World……..and your Passa’s has destroyed the Christian Ministry, game over you lame ;-}

Honey B said on November 8th, 2007

As long as their riches come from their own hard work and not the church members who are following them, I thinks it’s okay for them to ride to the moon if they want to. I understand the need to make a living, but these mega rich pasters are way beyond being content with sustenance and covering. If they have nothing to hide, then what is the worry? :)

Hiram Abiff said on November 8th, 2007

all i’m saying is these cats (Pastors) have congregations in the HOOD, surrounded by Po Folks……and Folks who are barely making ends meet………while these cats hustle and scare them into giving the little change thats in the piggy bank…….ask yourself why your Passa dont live in your HOOD? why do he/she live in Suburbia and you live in the HOOD where the Church is located? wake up sleeping giant ;-}

Dee said on November 8th, 2007

I can’t say whether or not these men or women of God are doing wrong or right because I do not know them now or before they became ministers. The only thing I will say is I hope they are indeed living right and doing the work of God for God’s people, because people take their religion serious and when you decide to become a member of a church and tithe and serve in the church it is a serious thing and the preachers and fellow members should respect that this is not a game to you. I know there are Ministers who have given that calling a really bad rep, but like my father says who is a preacher himself “he can find someone better to play with other than God.” So, there is no point in really judging these preachers or trying to find out if they are or are not living right, because we don’t have a heaven or hell to put them in and in the end they will pay for it if they are indeed doing crazy things. God can bring more hell in one day then we could in an entire lifetime. So, this is something simply to be left in the hands of God.

MINISTER D. said on November 8th, 2007

what the public must understand about a mega church is that most of the congregation usually is not just barely making it financially.secondly these churches supply so many different programs to there surrounding community and these mega churches also have connections with many businesses and organizations that do so much charity work over seas in countries that the average individual wouldn’t think about touching.besides the bible does’t speak of living lavish as a sin it’s all about understanding how to properly handle the churches finances.lastly i say to everyone before u judge the church and its’ leaders in any way read your bible first and also faith is not about race or culture but it disturbs me that all these leaders being investigated is black!!!!!!!

Hiram Abiff said on November 8th, 2007

it disturbs me that Black Religious Leaders once in time didn’t have the legal right in america to read a Bible or anything else, now they claim its the True and Only Word of God…………..the Whites who taught us Christianity didn’t and don’t believe that themselves. Churches and Ministries who allow Big Business into its doors has become a pusedo center of religion………….i thought i read in the Bible where Jesus kicked Big Business out of the Church (The Money Changers)if we as Black Folks sit on the sidelines, and say leave everything to God to fix, we and are posterity would still be in physical slavery…………….get it? someone had to die for us to be set free from the hands of American, and European forced Slavery……… think before you speak ;-{

MINISTER D. said on November 8th, 2007

to shanon get an understanding of the word material things do not mock god the.putting these material things or anything before god is what mocks god and god said give up these things for him and he will add all these things unto u.secondly praying in secret is used as an metaphore to let us know we must not boast in our faith to the world for there approval. but just live through our faith so the world can see the actions.lastly generalizing christians in america compared to other countries is ridiculous when no one is sin FREE except CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bro Jay said on November 8th, 2007

Minister D:
going over sea to prove your chruch does charity
work don’t cut it, when your homecountry is suffering thru gangviolence,drugaddiction,provety
housing etc I think overseas should diffently be
help but also it a great writeoff volenteers money
is sorry to say ,very profitable too…

Bro Jay said on November 8th, 2007

As humans some of this is just common sense.
I don’t fill comfortable if my minister have
a jet plane,helicoter,ten room- ten bathroom
mansion, a yacth, a fleet of ten of the most
luxurious cars.But when it call for to speak out
agianst moral injustise by being out in the street
with the people during dangerous protests but your know where to be seen or say I don’t get
involve with that kind of stuff that a prolem.

Lolita said on November 8th, 2007

I HOPE THAT ALL THOSE, QUOTE ON QUOTE PREACHERS,TEACHERS,EVANGELIST AND SO ON ARE WHO THEY ARE PROCLAIMING TO BE IN CHRIST, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE NOT, THEY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF, AND THAT AIN’T GONNA BE NO JOKE WHEN IT’S ALL SAID AND DONE !

Natasha said on November 8th, 2007

I would put that in God’s hands. We don’t know what’s going on except for our God and only He can controll that. I mean we know these pastors are making money but sad to say that most of these pastors shows that off. It’s hard to judge these pastors or sometimes take up for them. It’s hard to trust them also even if they are a man of God. And the reason why is because this world is crazy.But I mean if they wanna live the lavish, so be it but they know if their gifts are from God or from the congregation. I say let them deal w/ the consequences.

AJ said on November 8th, 2007

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE AND THEIR OPINION’S, SOME THING’S SAID ON HERE ARE SO OUT OF ORDER, BUT JUST AS SOMEONE SAID, GOD KNOW’S AND THAT’S WHAT MATTER’S IN THE END, WE ALL WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO GOD AND PEOPLE NEED TO REALLY BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE WORD’S THEY UTTER OUT OF THEIR MOUTH

Prophet Will (True Believer) said on November 8th, 2007

We as a Nation always worring about someone elses biz….God is not a poor God……he expects greater for us…..Where were these Haters when these Pastors Pocket book was broke down and didnt even have a chance….now they hatin cause they livin lavish in Christ…..I dont see nobody askin why these Rappers are driven and Livin in Lavishness…and the rappers aint tellin you or your kids…..dooody squat……this shows the true defects in our society today…….were essentially saying its ok for 5 cent/Kanye mess /lil brain/and whoever else you let your child glorify say go strait to hell listening to my dead end rymes when you have a Pastor tryin to keep our hard head selves out ov Hell…..

I pray That God gives them Double for their trouble……..Haters make me Greater!!!!

Do yall thang Creflo/Long…Love yall in Christ

cuteasabutton50 said on November 8th, 2007

As long as it is not illegal, I don’t care.

Prophet Will (True Believer) said on November 8th, 2007

I think Bet need to get some better programming for the Devout and True Believers in Christ…
I cant believe Bet has time to waste on pushin non sense….

where are the morals…Bet used to have….I guest it got sold when Bob Johnson sold the Co…

My Badd

Andrea Turner said on November 8th, 2007

I think heaven is going to be mega just like the mega church I attend. God has no desire for us to be poor. People who have never been to a mega church think they know everything about a church. At New Birth in Atlanta Ga Bishop Long has programs to help you get out of debt, purchase a home and etc. If you dwell with people who want more…. then you will want more too. I’m happy they have because I’m striving to have as well. Is it okay for the rappers and actors to have but not our spirtual leaders. When I tithe I tithe to the kingdom not to the church and thats how we should look at it. I give God 10% because thats what I am suppose to do. We assume the church runs on air, but the church has bills too. As soon as the ac stops working or the heat break down we want it fix. There are mortgages on these mega churches hello money is not fallen from the sky. I go to a mega church in Atlanta and a smaller church in Macon. I go to both for the same thing to praise God not man. So lets stop worrying about peoples personal business. We want the pastor or bishop to be available all day 24/7 however we want him to be homeless and not drive a car. If you drive and live nice how come the man or woman taking us higher can’t have anything.
The same people upset are the one’s looking for a hand out nobody gives you anything you have to work hard to get what you want. It’s sad that the crab mentality is even in church. You know there are people out there who get paid 10,000 to 25,000 just to speak for an hour on how to become rich, debt free, motivational or etc…. nobody is upset about that so what is the difference. We get upset about things we don’t understand.

Issa said on November 8th, 2007

BLAH BLAH BLAH We have these same misinformed discussions and they come from people who have never set foot in Bishop Long or Pastor Dollar’s Churches. This investigation is perpetuated by a bunch of jealous lames. Prosperity is wholeness in every area of life nothing missing and nothing broker. Pastor Dollar DOES NOT GET A SALARY FROM HIS CHURCH. HE OWNS THREE BUSINESSES AND PAYS HIS TAXES. HE HAS PUT OVER 25 MILLION DOLLARS OF HIS OWN MONEY BACK INTO THE CHURCH. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PROVIDES THE POPE WITH CARS CLOTHES AND A FINE HOME. HAVE YOU SEEN THE VATICAN? THE POPE WEARS PRADA SHOES. THERE ARE SOME IGNORANT MISINFORMED NEGROES ON HERE. JESUS WAS NOT BROKE. READ YOUR BIBLE. HE WAS THE SON OF GOD. JUDAS WAS THE TREASURER. IF JESUS WAS BROKE WHAT THE HELL DID HE NEED A TREASURER FOR. THIS WILL MAKE THESE MEN OF GOD STRONGER THAN THEY HAVE EVER BEEN. Prophet will needs to shut his mouth and speak on things he knows about. Clown

MINISTER D. said on November 8th, 2007

shannon i pray that u seek GOD on your interpertations of the bible because you are way offffff!!!!!

sabrina said on November 8th, 2007

If you don’t get your BLESSING from God who do you Get them From. If THEY WALK IN THE PATH OF HOLINESS AND LEADING OTHERS LOST SOULS IN THE SAME PATH LET THEM HAVE THERE MONEY AND THAT IS THERE BLESSING. AND WE ALL SHOULD NO THAT BLESSING COME FROM GOD!!!!!!!

Hiram Abiff said on November 8th, 2007

even though y’all fully know that the Ministers are pipming you, your still going to give them your money this coming Sunday……….your like %~~~ Vic’s who have fell in love with the Rapist
;-{

preacher'swife said on November 8th, 2007

WOW…there is so much passion and animation. Being married to a Preacher, I see things a little differently. I can’t speak on all Pastors and Ministers, but…I can say that my husband spends MANY nights(hour upon hours) studying and preparing to teach the men & women of God..he has plenty of sleepness nights trying to prepare to feed the Word of God to saints…praying for the saints, counseling saints, writing letters to judges on behalf of saints, visiting the sick, encouraging those who lost loved ones, etc.

I’m saying that to say…Pastors & Ministers job’s go beyond preaching in the pulpit. Their called on for wedding ceremonies, funerals, hospitals, court rooms, counseling, prayers, etc.

We can’t judge these mega-Pastors for living what we think is a lavish lifestyle. They’re responsible for SOULS, for heavensake.

Besides…as Christians we know that we give not to the”man”, but we give out of obedience and reverance of God. Now.. what the church &/or Pastor does with our tithes or offering…only God knows.

Funny thing, Kobe and Shaq can make millions upon millions for throwing a ball in a hoop…no one complains…YET.. a Pastor who is responsible for saving lost souls, who saves marriages, prays for the sick, gives to the needy…how dare he drive a bentley.

Very interesting!

The Widow's Son said on November 8th, 2007

you dont need a Pastor to marry you, when you can have it done at the County Recorder of Deeds, we are the care takers of our own souls, not someone who only sees us two times a week……our money nevers reaches Heaven…its reaches the Pastors bank account,lol………..Kobe and Shaq have real jobs……..Pastors who live high off the hog are not worth of HONOR………..the scam is over and you Pastors better turn your Bentleys and Private Jets in ;-}

ms_floeticfemme said on November 9th, 2007

hiram abiff

..where are you from…India?
go sit down with your views..and silly opinions
..ya opinion is like an azz hole.
everybody has one

have a good day
..go drink a glass of lemonade or something

geesh
..you are soo angry

…WHOM ARE WE TO JUDGE?
only my savior can judge…

peace

Hiram Abiff said on November 9th, 2007

ms_floeticfemme, i’m from the HOOD with 3 college degrees……….you just judged me but yet you claim only your savior can judge……..sounds backwards baby girl……..think before you pop off……….dont start WAR and then finish with peace……..i’ll have a good day when you bow down and chew on my TEA BAG, get it? my nut sack………..yeah, its waiting for your piehole, so get in line ya BIG DUMMY………thanks for responding to my blog, your nothing more then a Social Experiment ;-}

Joeman said on November 9th, 2007

You are wild on here! When this investigation is over and they are found to have done nothing wrong/illegal how much you want to bet that it will not get an ounce of pubilicity. This is just a trick of the enemy to divide the people of God and confuse those who God wants to reach. Only God can judge and if a leader of a church is foul, the bible speaks about the harsher penalty they receive for leading God’s children astray. Let’s stop all the arguing and name calling and put that energy into making a difference in your communities. As far as the Church paying someone’s bills, I don’t know about that one. The bible speaks about feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and prisoners, not chasing creditors away! HAHAHA.

Hiram Abiff said on November 9th, 2007

just because your found not guilt, does not mean your innocent………..money can be transfered, and receipts can be created………these guys are going to pimp the Flock untill the WORLD BLOWS UP ;-{

Scott said on November 10th, 2007

Bishop Eddie Wrong
Bishop T.D. Snakes ( T.D. Taking Dough )
Creflo Dollar (the name alone sounds shaddy) a name that a pimp would have.
Taffy Dollar ( sounds like a prostitute )

The church is corrupt!!!!!!!!!

Armando said on November 11th, 2007

I feel that’s it’s a shame that theses ministers so-called people of God continue to shame the living name of or lord and saviour. Jesus did’nt ride in bently or roll royecs and he did’nt hang out wit the rich folks either he was with the poor and the drunks and the brokenhearted. These ministers these days want to be like the rappers or they actors or the million dollar ball player.They have lost there self-worth if they had any in the first place. I live in the ATL not confirming this but a friend of mine told be T.D. Jakes holds the records for shoes sales some where around $32,000 in one day. I told him man if dollar and long and jakes, bynum etc where driving there bentlys on a cold day in atlanta and a homless person came up to them and just ask for a couple dollar they would burn rubber. God Help

Lisa-Joy said on November 11th, 2007

Please help me understand ? I’m not picking a fight with those who have brainwashed into thinking that passah is the next thing to Jesus. I just don’t get it.

These passahs don’t pay taxes, but let a fire break out at the crib and they’ll be calling 911 to get the help that you’re paying for. Let them have a finder bender and trust me they’ll be calling from the cell that you help buy them to call for a service that you helped pay for.

And if you ask them to attend a function in your community, oh trust that it will cost you. If you don’t show the funds they wont show the love.

So if I understand this correctly, they don’t pay taxes but use tax payers resources, they want to hide behind the seperation of church and state but want state services, and to add to this greed they want us, people who will never own 1/2 of what they have to pay for them to live life lovely and not be forced to show us the money.

Naw, I’ll pass.

jina said on November 12th, 2007

I am not judging anyone. I read the word of God and I have knowlege about the principles. My only problem is that pastors need to pay taxes. Their incomes should be taxed. As a taxpayer, I find it disturbing that their income is not taxable. It is real easy to pay 10%, when you actually get to see the 90%. A regular person pays about 35% of their income to the government every year, plus 10% (if they are a faithful tither). I don’t think it is right and I think it is unfair for working class people to live paycheck to paycheck, while pastors live extravagant lifestyles. What kills me is when the pastor gets mad because a member needs assistance. Or tells the congregation how the church is not there to meet and supply every need. I think if you see a need and your are a pastor, then if you are able to meet it you should. It is not about what you have. You should treat people the way that you want God to treat you. I question the heart of a pastor if I do not see them helping memebers who are less forunate. Quit asking members to assist people in the church and be a role model. You are suppose to be the head of your body.

Hiram Abiff said on November 12th, 2007

in the end, CANT KNOCK THE HUSTLE ;-}

Shannon said on November 12th, 2007

May the Lord bless all of you who made comments vulgar and otherwise. I don’t propose to be a scholar or close to it BUT I do have a real and close relationship with the only mediator between God and man–the man Christ Jesus. Not everyone who says, “Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom.” The bible talks about those who would make money off of the flock. It’s just sad to hear how many people have been tricked into believing and following false teaching. I used to listen to this type of teaching until I realized that this teaching was not of God false teaching leaves you wanting and keeps you in sin which ultimately leads to death. The bible says in last days men would not listen to sound teaching, but have itching ears. Jim Bakker finally admitted he was a false teacher and how he fooled miilions of people after his trouble with the law over PTL. It takes what is takes…bless all of you.

OBM said on November 12th, 2007

THESE MEN ARE PIMPING THE GOSPEL. I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL!!!!!

Hiram Abiff said on November 12th, 2007

Shannon, no one needs your sermon of benevolence…….you are still part of a money making, name it - claim it CULT…….get a life you moron……………..the Bible is a coded book that you or anyone else fails to under or overstand ;-{

Lolita said on November 12th, 2007

Only the Lord our God, knows the real truth about these mega preacher’s and evangelist. I just watched an episode of exalted o bet featuring Carlton Pearson, people should look at what happened to him, when the vast majority of his congregation skipped out on him. He also had other successful business ventures,but when his flock bailed on him, he therfore lost his lavish lifestyle as well as his mega churh. I personally, not for second believe that these mega church preachers and evangelist’s, don’t ever touch their ministries money. Even Mr.Pearson,could I’m sure acknowledge that it takes a lot of a church’s followers to give to that ministry for it to function especially those mega ministries !

sriley said on November 12th, 2007

Examine his name. Crefold Dollar. His name alone spells money. What other job does Mr. Dollar have to cover his expensive suits, cars, trips and homes. NONE. He is using congregation money to finance his living. Those who willingly give to him are fools. I agree with the government. Investigate all ministers, preachers, etc. that live a lavish life. Church is a money making business.

nic said on November 12th, 2007

If Creflo Dollars’ church brings in $~ million each year, then why is he ridindg in Mercedes, and BMWs’ and living in multi-million homes, instead of feeding the poor and housing the homeless. With that much money coming in from (a church) no one in the surrounding communities should be wondering where they are going to lay their head or where their next meal is coming from. Yes it true. God blessed everyone, but lets also remember that God blesses us so that we can be a blessing to one another. So before the “mini$ter$” treat themselves to fancy cars,decked out mansions and, private jets, take care of our less fortunate brother and sister. Stop giving $400,000 cars as gifts to other people with your same financial status and give a car to that hard working brotha thats walking. Greed is one of the 7 DEADLY SINS.Remember that when doing Gods’ work you must not be overcome with the desires of your heart. Also remember 2 of the most important virtues are humility and kindness. People the Bible also warns us of false prophets…

nic said on November 12th, 2007

Okay to the Preacher’s wife. I hear you, but I disagree and personally, I find it kinda of shameful that a preacher’s wife would make that statement. My Pastor is not responsible for my soul. I am responsible for my soul. Now, my Pastor maybe responsible for teaching me things in order to prepare my soul for heaven, but he’s not responsible for where my soul goes. My mom is married to a Preacher(after my real daddy died), and I assure you that the job doesn’t pay millions, but it requires alota hours. See true pastor dont put price tags on a sermons. True Pastors dont need Bentley’s. They use whatever gets them to their member when they are in dire need of a counselor. They minister the word of God because they have been called upon by Him to do so. My mother’s husband does it because he was charged with that task. He spreads the word in whatever he’s wearing or driving to whoever will listen. God’s money goes towards the upkeep of the church. Not to support your lavish lifestyle…

aly4675 said on November 13th, 2007

i glad someone is checking up on all of these frauds. they fly in 4 million dollar jets while member of their congregation struggle its stupid i hope they all go to jail.

Cre Hicks said on November 13th, 2007

Look, i believe that your supposed to take care of your pastor. I believe that the pastor should look good and live a certain way by all means it is setting an example to the people he is teaching he can not teach prosperity and he is driving a hyundai! However i do have a problem with them not helping out there members, I mean if your member lost his job will you help him keep his lights on? Will the church help keep his car note paid so he can find another job? The bible says give and it will come back to you good measure press down and running over! That is not just for the member but also the church. So is the mega church pastor a giver or a taker? That’s what i want to know so yes he’s driving a bently but is he helping the struggling members of his chruch who is he giving too?

Cre Hicks

k said on November 14th, 2007

I can not judge thats in the hand of God. It says it is more blessed to give than to recieve and God will bless those who bless his servants. And if you call yourself a true christian you do not fight against Gods words but abide by them. His word is the same yesterday, today and forevermore. And for Harim how can you say what those men of God are doing you do not know unless you where there. In all I do mean all religons there are snakes not only Christanity but Islam. He says let the wheat and tare grow togehter and he will seperate them. All I can say is If that man of God is not right than his congregation blood is on his hand and he will bust hell wide open. And as long as I know that I abide and live according to what I believe I wont bust hell open with them. And before you take on the label of a pastor, bishop ext.. you need to think, fast, pray and study the word because this being over people’s souls IT’S NOT A PLAYTHING ITS FOR REAL.

De'shawn Thomas said on November 14th, 2007

IF these men are preaching the word of God, then they deserve the cars,houses,boats,planes, and other things. The bible states that seek the kingdom of God first the riches will follow. We cant be mad how God chose to bless his people

un known said on November 14th, 2007

JESUS SAVES

aly4675 said on November 14th, 2007

you guys are stupid if u think they should live well and at everyone else’s expense give me a freaking breaks thats what wrong with black people today being stupid

aly4675 said on November 14th, 2007

there was no one ever named jesus

k said on November 14th, 2007

to aly4675 if there was no one ever named Jesus than why are you on this site

aly4675 said on November 14th, 2007

didnt realize this was a jesus site

k said on November 14th, 2007

I did not say that this was a Jesus site and do you know a thing called history. You need to go read up on some.

aly4675 said on November 15th, 2007

k in history there was no jesus, do some research stupid, letter j invented in 1600’s pal

aly4675 said on November 15th, 2007

k in history there was no jesus do some research stupid, letter j invented in 1600’s smart guy

k said on November 15th, 2007

I have a history degree fool. And thats what you are. It is a fool who says there is no God and his name is JESUS How can there be no one ever named Jesus. Even the Jews who said that he was not their king know there was a man who walked this Earth named Jesus. So I guess their history and the history degree I have is a lie to you. And when you lift your eyes in hell tell them people you will be with down there that lie.

lyn said on November 15th, 2007

I am a member of New Birth and this is not the first time were financial records have been questioned about Bishop Eddie Long, People do not know were Bishop has come from or started at, they just read an article and assume everything is true, People have not seen how our church has grown from a couple of hundreds of members to the thousands that it is now, and people do not see how many donations that he has gave out, How he gives back not only to his congreation but to the city of Atlanta and Lithonia, People donot see that he was has given million to the Hosea Feed the Hungry Program, but they are quick to judge, Please do research before you voice your opinion.

aly4675 said on November 16th, 2007

k you need to get your money back there was no letter j in the hebrew language which is the correct term not jew idiot the letter j was not invented until 1630 fool so get your money back or stop lying about having a begree because you are pitiful.

k said on November 16th, 2007

wether the letter J was invent in the 1600’s are not there was still a man named Jesus. And you are right the correct term for jews is hebrew I knew that. And the bible was invent before than. So since you feel you know history if you can prove this than do so to show people otherwise.which you can not than you really have nothing to say. I know the history of religon I have studied for a longtime. you and no one else can tell me that the Lord Jesus never was.

aly4675 said on November 16th, 2007

i can tell you have studied nothing, if the hebrew didnt call him jesus how can his name be jesus you must be one of those people who says name doesnt matter. if it wasnt for white people who you got your religion from you would have never heard of jesus because he is a creation. do the research use that mythical history degree of yours and maybe you also believe he died on a cross huh

k said on November 16th, 2007

Well we shall see in the end if he is reaaly real. All I can say I will be ready when he comes. You can beleive what ever you want thats between you and the god you serve. this is another name since you say ther was never a man named jesus than call him this. Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Are you going to tell me the letter E was not invented than to.

aly4675 said on November 16th, 2007

name aint emmanel either there goes that history degree. another misled black go right ahead be dumb. but you really should research your pagan religion for real.

t said on November 16th, 2007

like I said we shall see in the end. I hope you are ready when that day comes. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord Jesus. Hope you have a great day aly4675.

aly4675 said on November 16th, 2007

sorry no ones coming. hope u have a great day also

BIG DADDY said on November 16th, 2007

congress has realized that their is someone out there making more money than them, and they don’t like that. these preachers have gotten use to the lifestyles that they are living, and as long as they don’t abuse it and live according to GOD’S rules, and mostly don’t forget why they started preaching, LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!

Keeping it funky said on November 19th, 2007

I grew up in the church, I love my fellow members of the congregation, but preachers do loose sight of what is important, sorry to say it but preaching is not about fancy cars and collecting 30 offerings each Sunday. I love the Lord, I believe in the men of God, but come on sometimes they take it toooo far!

Bishop Snake said on November 20th, 2007

get that money, rather its Wall Street………or the Hood………..mo money, mo money, the game is called MK ULTRA, look it up, then get at me!

kim said on November 23rd, 2007

#1. I agree with the dislikes of the elaborateness of certain pastors. i know god does reward but when your shoes cost more than my 1 mo rent my outfit my sons outfit, god also expects you to share what you have personally and not only what you get from the congregation. #2. i agree totally with thoughts of Bro Jay on 11/8/07 and Braun on 11/8/07. #3. Elijah B on 11/8/07 said “a” pastor was creating free homes for people all over the world. There are homeless people here who need so those pastors need to take their congregations money and help homeless people here even jesus took care of one thing at a time. Lastly #4. I am a growing christian and TO HIRAM ABIFF on 11/8/07 YOU ARE THE VERY REASON WHY RELIGIOUS WARS ARE STARTED. “saying where was your god at”. you are a disgrace us. Also this is a christian issue WHY aren’t you minding your own business, cause OBVIOUSLY your god got you on a website that IS NOT OF ANY CONCERN OF YOURS so your opinion goes into file “just like …. everybody got one” and if i was not a growing christian i would have spelled it out for you. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE AN IGNORANT MUSLIM AND gods children dont create havoc and you did by saying “where was your god at!!!!” GOD MADE EVERYONE but everyone is not a child of god, but i guess, i have never read your book but it sounds like your book says you can disrespect others. ABIFF GO AHEAD WITH YOUR BAD SELF AND FIND ANOTHER MAT TO KNEEL ON. everytime i see a muslim i will run in the opposite direction so I WONT SLAP somebody. NOTE: i am not a hater. just keeping it real but not where keeping it real goes bad like hiram abiff.

KeKe said on November 23rd, 2007

first of all for all those who say you have people here who are homeless that we need to take care of. Who are we to say that they did not help the people here first. I come from a family who did not have very much. God gave you a brain and a body with limbs and if there is not a major medical problem with you than you need to get up and get a job. If you call yourself a christain than you are not supposed to fight against the word of God but abide by it. No where in the bible did it state that a servant of God must pay taxes no where in the bible does it say that. What it does say is bless his servants and you shall be blessed. What is the purpose of believing in God if we do not abide and trust his word. For all those who do not trust and abide by his word the bible says those people are not of him so stop calling yourself christians. You want to Know the purpose of believing in God its you believe in his word no matter what and no one can deter you otherwise. I will Bless the Lord at all times and that includes his servants.

Ken said on November 25th, 2007

HELP!! CALL AN ANGEL QUICK! I HAVE BEEN STUCK UP A MEGA PREACHER!

Tonette said on November 28th, 2007

I agree with Preacher Wife on Nov. 8th.
Also, if there is an investigation, are we
investigating the white mega-churches?
This is ridiculous.
If a person feels their pastor is not a true man
of God and is not doing what they should be doing with the finances, switch churches. No one is making U go there.

Jason Kidd said on November 28th, 2007

most Pastors dont even believe in the second coming of christ…….thats why they steal, deceive, and ~?%~ the flock………..the power of belief controls the world, and he who controls minds controls the world……….cant hate tha GAME its all about that filthy lucre ;-{

nikki said on November 30th, 2007

I THINK IT IS AMAZING HOW PEOPLE COME AGAINST PASTORS. WHY WOULD THE SENATOR BE CHECKING INTO THE CHURCHES INCOME. WHY IS IT O.K. FOR CELEBRITIES TO HAVE MONEY BUT NOT PASTORS.

Hiram Abiff said on November 30th, 2007

nikki, celebrities actually work………while pastors dont have employment, but live high off the hog, YA BIG DUMMY!!!!! could of had a v8…………but no, you choose to ask stupid questions,lol ;-{

Dre said on November 30th, 2007

for those who disagree wit pastors enjoying the finer things in life it’s sad. it’s sad for u to support rappers, drug dealers, etc. who dont do much good for people. pastors carry out the word God has, and for those who dont, I’m not talking about them. There was a complaint about pastors not helping member’s out. I know plenty of pastors who help with bills, college, they’ll even bail u out of jail. It’s nothing wrong with enjoying your money.

florida's child said on December 3rd, 2007

It looks to me like everybody is looking at what god does for you as for is money and things that can be had by way of money. But we need only look at our lord god to see what need to see but refuse. Is it safe to say that if our lord wanted to drive the biggest and fastest car, or in his case house, he could have. If he wanted to live in the biggest house or even the kings house on the top of the hell, he could have. so why don’t he? it was because he was not put here for that. he was here to do a job. he was here to on a mission given to him by his father. worldly things was not on his mind. our pasters seem to have worldly things on there minds. pasters today are so quick to point out that gods give to them. look at my new 10 room house. look at my new cars and my 5,000 dallor suit. I don’t think god blesses like that.

aly4675 said on December 3rd, 2007

please wake up my brothers and sisters please read and really study the bible look up in the dictionary wha the words that you read really mean. if people did we would already know that the white man’s religion is flawed

Eboyne said on December 20th, 2007

There is nothing wrong with reaping the harvest of those obedient to God. My father is rich in houses and land and so i am his child and therefore shall inheret what my Father in heaven owns which is everything. The bible states, “Touch not my anoiting and do my prophet no harm”, we will all be judged one day. As for shephards of the flock who bring forth the word of God, they are human to thats why you dont worry about what PEOPLE are doing, you seed, tithe and give offering in obedience to GOD not to man. And if it is being handled in the wrong way, trust me, God’s got it. We worry about the wrong things

christlike said on December 22nd, 2007

If the idea is to live your life like Jesus then their doing a horrible job. Jesus was a man of the cloth. If he wanted to be rich and have the luxuries of this world he could have but he wanted to be the poorest person in the world. It’s like people forget you can’t serve two masters this world and the hereafter

Miss.lee said on December 23rd, 2007

I dont see a problem with it they work just as hard as the next human, trust me i know my dad is a pastor and all he does is help the people at our church as well as people he meets on the street. people arent broke because they want to be they’re broke b/c of lack of financial control. thats what my problem was now im blessed to do what i want with my money. i feel like why hate b/c of what they have why dont you strive to get where they are.

ceaser said on December 24th, 2007

nothing wrong with the man or woman of God to have the fruits of their labor.the houses ,cars,airplanes are all blessings from their labor.no weapon formed against them shall prosper,can i get an amen.

Marsha said on December 26th, 2007

CEASER NO YOU CANNOT GET AN AMEN….

SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG ARE FOOLS AND HAVE LET THESE SO CALLED MEN OF GOD FOOL YOU…

THE SCRIPTURES SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT IN THESE LAST DAYS MEN WOULD BE LOVERS OF THEMSELVES, LOVERS OF MONEY, LOVERS OF PLEASURES, PUFFED UP WITH PRIDE, RATHER THAN LOVERS OF GOD… 2TIM 3:1-7… WHAT SHEPERD YOU KNOW LETS HIS FLOCK GO WITH OUT… NONE OTHER THAN FALSE TEACHERS… FAKE CHRISTIANS… BABYLON THE GREAT…

JESUS WAS IN FACT A MODEST MAN WHO CARED FOR THE NEEDS OF THE ILL ONES WHETHER IT WAS SPIRITUALLY, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY… HE CURED FOR FREE…. LET ME SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME IN CASE SOME OF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND…. HE CURED ALL FOR FREE… (YOU RECIEVED FREE…. GIVE FREE… MATT 10:8)JESUS HAD A JOB HE WAS A CARPENTER SO IF HE COULD WORK THE PASTORS COULD WORK TOO…. A MAN WHO DOES NOT WORK…DOES NOT GET TO EAT… NO DOUBT IT IS OK TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CONGREGATION AND KEEP EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING…. THIS IS DOWN RIGHT ABSURD THAT THESE MEN ARE PLAYING THESE PEOPLE…. THEIR JUDGMENT IS COMING AND COMING HEAVILY… FOR GOD’S DAY OF JUDGMENT IS COMING… AND ITS NEAR… (1 THES 5:1-6) ALRIGHT I’M DONE PREACHING AND SHANNON I AGREE WITH YOU…

Monique said on December 28th, 2007

There’s nothing wrong with having nice things BUT I do have a problem with church leaders who live their lives lavishly while significant amount of their members and members of surrounding neighborhoods living without the basics….looks like GREED to me.

1 Peter 5:5 (Whole Chapter)
[Luke 22:26; 1 Tim 5:1] You younger men, likewise, [Eph 5:21] be subject to your elders; and all of you, clothe yourselves with [1 Pet 3:8] humility toward one another, for [Prov 3:34; James 4:6] GOD IS OPPOSED TO THE PROUD, BUT GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE.

Personally, Church is not a place for a fashion show. I believe we all should leave the fancy cars, clothes & accessories at home….It is distracting. As Christians, we enter the house of the Lord to honor HIM. PERIOD!

Monique said on December 28th, 2007

One more thing….BLESSINGS DOES NOT EQUAL BEING RICH!!!! Not everyone God blessed in the Bible were rich!!!! Yet, some ministries preach financial prosperity more than anything else! Hmmmmm!!!! What went wrong there!!!!

When that GREAT DAY comes, the poor will be first and the rich will be last.

STARLISA B said on December 28th, 2007

Monique you took the words out of my mouth. If there are any members from one of the churches online please speak up and tell us how you feel about the Bishop and what you have learned from him. Please!!!

Le'Asia said on December 28th, 2007

In the word it does not say that what is meant by that is if you are rich in his word and spirit than you shall inherit his kingdom. Not your moneitry wealth your spiritual wealth. God wants his servants to be blessed. And none of us weather a preacher or a lay memeber shall enter unless you have the Holyghost. He wants us to be happy. For HIS WORD SAYS BELOVED I WISH ABOVE ALL THINGS THAT YE MAYEST PROSPER AND BE IN GOOD HEALTH EVEn AS Your SOUL PROSPERTH!!!!!! READ YOUR BIBLES AND TRULLY KNOW THE MEANING BEFORE YOU COMMENT. BECAUSE IF HIS WORD SAY THIS IS WHAT HE WANTS THAN AAL OF YOU WHO SAY ITS WRONG ARE BASICLLY SAY GOD IS A LIE WHICH WE KNOW HE IS NOT!!

pastor T said on December 29th, 2007

It is amazing how many different positions people can take on issues. And how cruel we can be to each other over them.

Jesus taught in St. Matthews that praying to be heard or doing things to be seen was the only reward due to those seeking such.

If these preachers are preaching and teaching for the money, its sad. When Judgement Day comes, God will owe them nothing, they will already have their reward.

It would be really sad that after preaching to others they themselves should end up as cast aways.

It seems that many of the comments being made here are from people that consider themselves to some degree christians.

May I suggest we season our words with a little grace for the benefit of those viewing this site that have not come into the knowledge of God which could be hindered by ugly attitudes being expressed here?

Some of the comments here sound like they are coming from people that are down right ignorant. Not on the subject they are commenting on but in the way they are expressing them.

Jesus taught that a tree is known by the fruit it bares. This applies to the preachers being talked about and the people doing the talking as well.

SHASSY said on December 31st, 2007

I agree that ministers are blessed and nothing is wrong with blessings - financial blessings included. But some of these ‘ministers’ have no formal theology training and have not been convicted by the Holy Spirit to lead a congregation. No, they just decided one day to open a church - to them the church is a money-making entity… and that’s what a number of these multi-millionnaire ‘ministers’ have done. The church is nothing but a business to them.

Minister Kenely said on January 3rd, 2008

First Let me say this. Why is it that when a man of God is blessed with things why is it a problem. I believe if they are giving, living right before God and there heart is right why is it a problem. I do believe that some are jealous(THAT SENT NEGATIVE E-MAILS ON PASTORS). Doctors have money, Lawyers have money, Jay Z has money, P Diddy has money, but when a man of God has money it becomes a problem If we read our word there were men of God in the word that had much money(livestock). What is the problem my brothers and sisters. See what alot of people don’t know and I do, because I am and have been around great men of God. Do some of you not know that some have given cars, money paid rent, help thousands of people out of there own money. Please saints(the ones that are saved)don’t get caught up on the negative about men that the Lord is using and blessing. I think that is so ignorant. I had an honor to visit a church in another state and to see what they are doing to help people. For all the ones that are negative about God Blessing them and they are blessing others. My question to you is WHAT ARE YOU DOING. ARE YOU FEEDING HOMELESS, HELPING PEOPLE?????? IF NOT PLEASE SHUT IT UP!!!

Marsha said on February 16th, 2008

It’s a World Calling…these people were never called to the church…they are called to the World…for God so loved the World…that He gave His only Begotten Son…the Call has a Map…a Map unto Everlasting Life…It’s what God does…It is Ministry…It holds the weight, “Understanding”, is on the same scale as wisdom. Therefore get Wisdom; and with all thy getting, get Understanding. Proverbs 4:7. In all that I can have I’d rather have understanding because understanding is as powerful as wisdom. The world has placed under scrutiny; a microscope, the men and women of God. Yet, they are following the script..those who prosper in His footsteps; in their journey for Christ. It is saying…how are they able to have what they have?… doing what they do?…It is that they have taken the peoples money and lavished it upon themselves; using it for their own selfish gain…we are going to investigate them and prove that this is how they are doing it. We are going to examine their earnings and profits and we will prove they have wrongfully profited from the people. This only makes sense to the world…yet, it is not so. They are simply following the script…men and women of God, Amen. You may say the Word of God is not a script. It is the Word; out of the mouth of God. The Word is script-ure..it is a Map unto Everlasting Life. What they are experiencing before the world is what God does when you follow it…when you live it. These are The Eddie Long’s..the Paula White’s..the Joyce Meyer’s..the Creflo Dollar’s etc, in the world. And the thing about it is…this prosperity is available to any man who will hearken unto God, that will live for Him…that will give Him to the World in truth…This is the Gospel. I had heard an entertainer, entreprenuer, producer and song writer…bro Jermaine Dupri say once…quote,If you chase it for the Love, you’ll see the money sitting right beside you when you least expect it. unquote.. And you ain’t seen nothing yet! Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. I Corinthians 2:9. :For as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,..and laid them down at the Apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. Acts 4:34,35
It happened.

Toni T said on February 22nd, 2008

I seriously dont underdstabd why these men of God are being investigated. God promised us all, he also granted us the abilities to seek his riches in glory!! It’s funny how our society supports artists, athletes, tv stars with their bentley’s, private jets, and million dollar mansions…..and when a man or woman of God does it it has to be justified. Realisticly none of these people would have these wordly possesions without God so what’s the big deal. The enemy is busy we have to stay prayed up in 08′ yall!


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