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Torrence’s Talk With Bishop Carlton Pearson
Published by Torrence Glenn on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 at 12:30 am.
Recently I sat down with Bishop Carlton Pearson to discuss his new book “God Is Not a Christian, Nor a Jew, Muslim, Him…: God Dwells with Us, in Us, Around Us, as Us.” Now before you go off, hear me out. (I hate to be “defensive” but I know y’all!!)
If we’re unable to have rational and sometimes through provoking discussions on spirituality and religion with other folks, how truly effective can we be at communicating our faith to others. Sure, Bishop Pearson’s recent changes in doctrine (or evolution if you will) has caused quite a stir in the gospel and Christian community. And truthfully, if you grew up in the traditional church, some of what he now believes may not sit well with you. However, I’m not afraid of questions and when the opportunity to read Bishop Pearson’s book and talk to him presented itself to me, I decided to take the chance.
Let’s be honest, much of what we subscribe to is because of what we’ve been told. I remember growing up Pentecostal and having friends who were Baptist, Apostolic, AME, Methodist, etc. and although we all accepted each other as Christians, our individual churches had HUGELY fundamental differences on what it meant to be “saved.” Some of those differences absolutely and completely contradicted the other. (For example, I know some apostolic Pentecostals who believe that if you don’t get baptized in Jesus’ name specifically and speak in tongues you are not saved.) But generally, we accepted one another for the Christians we each proclaimed to be and didn’t condemn those who didn’t believe EXACTLY the way we did to hell. Sure, there may have been some heated discussion and even a few arguments, but at the end of it all, you respected the opinion and spiritual and scriptual INTERPRETATION of the other group.
So it’s in that spirit of having an open mind and respect for Bishop Pearson’s right to believe, think and interpret his faith as he sees fit that I read his book and conducted this interview. And I’ll admit right here and right now, some of it made a lot of sense to me, and I’ll also admit, some of it didn’t. But I think it’s safe to say that until our lives are over, we’ll be in a constant and consistent walk with God to further understand him and determine our PERSONAL relationship with God is.
So if you’ve never questioned anything you’ve read in the bible or heard in church, you probably won’t enjoy or appreciate this interview. If you think anybody who doesn’t believe exactly everything you do is going to hell, you probably won’t enjoy this interview. If you don’t find value in dialogue with people who think differently than you do, then you probably won’t like this interview. However, if you can, do me a favor and just watch and tell me what you think.
Torrence
Dude you need to guard your mind. thats all i gotta say. Carlton is a smart man and he read you like a book and played on your “awe” of him
Look at the signs of the world. We are truly living in the last days. After hearing this and researching Carl Pearson from what he used to be and now. I hope he repents and ask God for forgiveness. People go to Youtube and look up Perry Stone a national preacher… Some of the things that the government is doing behind the scenes next will cause a whole lot of people in hell… Cause they dont know the word of god for themselves. Its called the infrid chip… We are in the last days…. People be prayerful and guard ur minds.
Bishop (and I use that term loosely) Pearson, is totally wrong. He is going to hell and the rest of those who believe in his word, the word of Jakes, Dollar, Pearson, McClendon, Long, etc… I hate the fact that we get into the politics of the word of GOD. It is uncut and true, we want to believe in heaven and all of the glory and majesty of the book, but we damn all the bad things or so we think that is bad to justify our unbelief and our behavior. I can kill, steal, lie, cheat without condemnation? God Forbid.. This message is ludacris, forreal.. This man and anyone who believe this is dangerous. If its not in the book, dont believe it, its the spirit of the ANTI-CHRIST. Get into some holiness, this terrence guy is a lier from the pits of hell also, people wanna do what they wanna do and not follow rules, there are rules people.. Get into the book, get under a real pastor that will direct you into salvation. Tony Smith, good pastor, Henry Buie, good pastor that teaches the uncut word of GOD, not what man tell u what they think but what the book says…
this is my comment base on the scripture. take it or leave it or else
Timothy 1:3 NIV • Read this chapter
[ Warning Against False Teachers of the Law ] As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
2 Peter 2:1 NIV • Read this chapter
[ False Teachers and Their Destruction ] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
My God bless you torrence for sitting threw this interview, I couldnt do it, This is a sign in the book about leader’s mind’s are being reprobated mind i just feel so sorry for him because the Bible tell’s us in the last day’s this would happen. But as for the rest of us we should keep our minds on Jesus and to continue reading our Bible’s because we can only save our self. Thank you all for this opportunity to express our feeling on this situation and Pray for the World Because we all need it.
I appreciate the interview and the candor… I think some of the comments reflect some of what Bishop Pearson was sharing… Fear Factor… as a Christian we cannot afford to be afraid to have provocative dialogue that causes THINKING… neither do I believe we can afford to allow our STRONG opinions cause us not to present what we BELIEVE to a table that present a STRONG position and argument without Clear, Concise, CALM TRUTH to go with the FACTS… with that said… Thank you Torrence for your courage and Thank you Bishop for challenging ALL of us to THINK!!!!…. I will post more on my blog later,,, http://InhaleExhale365.blogspot.com
Blessings to everyone!!!
Please people, stop being emotional and read your bibles.
Carlton Pearson is a heretic, false teacher/prophet, liar and the whole evil deal.
His ministry will be the ruin of many. They guy is sick and has been given over to a reprobate mind.
Pray for him if thats what you feel like but give no place to devil in your thinking, this is one whole load of lies.
It would seem good to do the interview but reading the confusion I am not sure. Many people are not grounded in the word and get “tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine”.
DONT BE DECIEVED PEOPLE I BEG OF YOU, PUT THIS FALSE TEACHING AND TEACHER FAR FROM YOUR MINDS!!!
LORD HELP!!!!!
Every time two fools collide… this kind of poisonous filth is spewed forth. “The fool has said in his heart, There is no God” (Ps. 14:1).
Carlton Pearson makes JESUS CHRIST to be a liar, because Jesus said:”I AM THE WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. NO MAN cometh unto the Father, but my ME.”
1 John 2:22,23; 1 John 4:1-3, and 2 John 1:7 clearly expose this wolf as a deceiver and an antichrist.
Also, Jesus warned all mankind about Hell in Luke 16:23-28, “And IN HELL he lifted up his eyes, being in torments…”
According to this wolf, Jesus was lying! Indeed, I now believe the Bible even more, seeing the prophecy of increasing false prophets unfold before my very eyes.
These are indeed the last days, people. Search the scriptures for yourselves, lest you be seduced by the devil and his agents. Stand fast in the Word, for Hell is very real.
Wow!!! my brothers and sisters…. I commented earlier and I finally had a little time to write…. I pray to GOD that we ALL check how we are displaying the CHRIST we say we LOVE… my goodness!!!!
Be Blessed!!!
http://inhaleexhale365.blogspot.com/2010/08/inhale-exhale-day-140-hell-or-not.html
1JOHN2:18-26 PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING
JUDE1:9- the LORD rebukes you who- turn your backs on him!
2PETER2:1-2
2THESSSALONIANS2:7-12
MATTHEW12:33
PLEASE EVERYONE PRAY FOR THE POSTER/INTERVIEWER AND MR. PEARSON- STOP ARGUING- PLEASE READ THE SCRIPTURES I LEFT-
Against CHRIST= anti christ= even if you dont believe one day you will bow!
you rather have the praises of people and continue in your sins- so you take what you want from the bible-The LORD rebukes you!
Iris, Mr Pearson only wants a platform to spew his lies and Mr Torrence graciously gave him that platform. What earthly good can come from the lies of the devil.
He needs to be ostricized from the brethren not given a platform to confuse people.
There is no place in scripture were false teachers were dealt with in frienship, not even Christ did that.
Galatians 1:8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
read people read.
Torrence, your last comment was a sly attempt at advocating inclusion while trying to make it seem as if scripture is not enough for us to know how to have a relationship with God.
Terrible! I believe repentance is in order for you.
The LORD rebukes… Not man GOD! Jesus Christ… Who’s arguing? It is easy to allow your mind to get twisted if you are not allowing your mind to be transformed with the power of the HOLY SPIRIT… Let this MIND be in you which was also in Christ Jesus!!!! Why waste time debating if there is a literal hell when obviously one is in living hell on earth?
Does not the scripture say Peace comes from above… and only GOD knows the heart of man? Does not the scripture say we must worship him in Spirit and Truth? Does it not say in all of your wisdom get an understanding and make sure you are LEAD by the Spirit of God?
I thought Bishop Pearson clearly stated on the onset of the interview that he was looking for answers for those in his congregration that was torn between what was being preached and “Living it Out!” … Is it not obvious from his emotion that this tormented him? Is it not hurting to see those you love still in bondage? when you have done all you know to do!
Are we so deep that we do not see the contridiction in daily practical living and applying or living the word daily in the lives of those you minister too? If not what church you go too?
Is it not true preaching, teaching, shouting, praying, even speaking in tongues is not enough to KEEP YOU DELIVERED? Isn’t it application of them ALL consistently and most of all spending quality time with GOD in His word…Relationship development? Can it be assumed that one has a relationship because they have a title?
I am not saying agree with all that He is saying… Yes we must guard our heart and mind…However, If we take into context the entirity of how he derived at his new found belief is it possible we can Speak to it in the Authority and Spirit of Jesus and actually see him transform again in his THINKING? not only him but others listening to us?
I am just asking? Are we that feeble that we cannot have dialogue with others that does not reflect our TRUTH? Do we feel we have to defend what we believe and who God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is? or do we believe The Bible? When ALL GODS people begin to walk in the fullness of HIS Power & Glory the debate is resolved!!!!
Perhaps the question is why was he and many like him (too this day) not seeing True Deliverance meaning people holding onto what they receive in Church? Is this not why he was devasted when so many jumped shipped and cast him out? It was his intention to bring light and help… Could it be that in turn what has happened is that we have taken the scripture and brow beat him further, isolated him further and those that are receiving him in love and understanding is re-enforcing what he perceives now as truth?
In my humble opinion Facts are not the complete Truth. There are a lot of men and women sitting in prison because of Facts and not Truth. As a child I went to Christian school and we recited this scripture daily ” Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly divide the word of truth…But shun profane babblings; for they will increase unto more ungodliness” 2 Timonthy 2:15-16
WE HAVE THE POWER USE IT!!!!
Blessings,
iRiS
oh my… i had no idea i typed that much… now that is babbling… ha ha ha very funny… that was not cut and paste strait typing… sorry and lots of love… just laugh….ha ha ha ha
How to: Defend your faith…
I found your entry interesting thus I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog
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i didn’t say befriend him…. or agree, neither did I say not to dismantle the information he is putting out with the Truth…He has a platform… 2 books a church and i think a special on TV was done on this topic…what I said in LOooonnnnnnng and short… It is my humble opinion debating over a real hell is mute, when a person is living in hell on earth… As a child I went to Christian school and we recited this scripture daily “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly divide the word of truth…But shun profane babblings; for they will increase unto more ungodliness” 2 Timonthy 2:15-16
WE HAVE THE POWER USE IT!!!!
We maybe saying the same thing just saying it differently….
This really makes you think and learn to be able to give a defense or reason why you believe what you believe.
Thanks, I appreciate your sincerity and your desire to present a meaningful dialogue.
Carlton Pearson has never had a good understanding of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. With all his education, pontification and eloquence he still doesn’t get it- and neither does Torrence.
They and other people come from religious systems that don’t teach the true Lord Jesus Christ, but they teach salvation by works. That’s why so many people fall away or go to “church” but don’t know God at all.
He, and people who believe like him, need to find the REAL Jesus!
Great dialog Torrence!!!! I was raised in the same denomination as you and Carlton Pearson. To be honest, I agree with what Carlton is saying. Most of take what our Pastors and Bishops say and run with it, without question. But, what if WE ALL began to search for the truth about our beliefs and dogmas? What if we all looked deep into our Christian faith and see it’s true origins? I think it would take the power away from the Christian leaders and it will remove the blinds off the whole of Christianity. Carlton’s book is awesome, it’s as though he was reading my mind and put it in a book. I was amazed that there was someone out there who had a heart for God, but was honest enough to step out and proclaim that we must rethink what we believe!!
I’m amazed at how many people are preaching on here…Lol….
Seriously, I don’t understand why people can’t question the Bible or concepts in the Bible. Many people rattle off scriptures without even realizing what they’re saying. If God is love and he dwells in you, why should you condemn and send someone to hell for their beliefs or questions about God? I really think we’re much harder on each other than God is on us.
I don’t think Carlton Pearson is trying to be misleading or a false prophet. I think he had questions and expanded on it. And now since it doesn’t add up to what you’ve been taught your whole life and never stopped to question what and why you believe it, its foreign so it can’t be right. How is that?
You don’t have to agree or even entertain the discussion, but saying someone is going to hell for it is contradictory.
I am concerned about you.
Maybe its being on BET, you are influenced? or maybe you dont have a good grasp of scripture? Or maybe you struggle with homosexuality? I dont know but your are more unsderstanding and accepting of lies that a true believer should be, if we should be at all.
People think that Christ was all nice all the time but he called false teachers ravenous wolves, wolves in sheep clothing. The Apostle Paul says that if you preach another gospel or a different Jesus you should be accursed – They should literrally be under a curse.
If Paul and Christ said such things why do you see it as a good thing to gives these heretics a place to spew their lies.
Are you a Christian? If so why do you enable such slackness?
You bigged up Tonex a self professed homosexual and now a Carton Pearson who has twisted scripture even more than Tonex.
I dont get it.
I dont want you to post this but I would love a response, you can email me if yuo so please.
May The LORD strengthen you against these lies and the pressure to conform.
Be blessed!
Paul