Another Law Targets Saggy Pants

July 22nd, 2008

The latest penalties include a $25 fine and even jail time

Saggy Pants
The crusade against sagging continues as the Chicago suburb of Lynwood has become the latest community to slap a fine on young folks who think it’s hip to show their underwear in public. Eugene Williams, mayor of Lynwood, led the campaign to impose $25 fines against anyone who reveals three inches or more of their drawers. But Lynwood’s new law isn’t the first of its kind. Just a week or so ago, Flint, Mich., showing its utter disdain for the fashion trend, says it will throw offenders in jail. Leading that city’s crusade is the new chief of police, David Dicks, who calls sagging “immoral self-expression,” reports Mary Chapman and Jessica Bennett of Newsweek magazine Their article suggests that Dicks, like officials in other cities with anti-sagging laws, are at least partially angered over the roots of the hip-hop clothing trend – prison, where inmates’ pants often hang off their butts because they don’t get belts. To find out other reasons mentioned and what the NAAPC had to say, go to BETlcom/News. What do you think about laws targeting saggy pants?

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Key Said on

Okay so I totally understand the problem with sagging pants. It’s very unattractive. BUT why are we worried about things as small as this when there are much bigger issues in the U.S. that need to be focused on. People always want to cause an uproar over minor things that don’t deserve as much attention as it’s give. And commenter FE, that’s the problem in the black community. Whether you are African or not you are still seen as black. And that divide within our community is doing nothing but making it worse!!! People need to grow up and open their eyes.



MidWest Said on

Jack, Please! Do you really need to advertise your dating site in every comment? Really? It is not even relevant to any of the articles.

I agree that the whole sagging this has gotten so old. I wish the “fad” would just go away, but it’s not. Still I think it is over the top to introduce laws to ban the way someone wears their pants. If their bare butts are hanging out of their pants then there are already indency laws which would cover that; we don’t need MORE laws dictating how high up your pants should be over your undies.



cedrick Said on

WELL ME I HATE TO SEE YOUNG MEN WALKING AND HOLDING THERE PANTS WITH ONE HAND TO KEEP HIS PANTS UP OR WALKING WITH THERE LEG OPEN TO KEEP THEM UP OR WALKING TWO STEPS PULL UP THERE PANTS WALK PULL UP ETC. WHY THIS STUPID IF YOU COME TO MY JOB i would turn you a round and say good day. stop this maddness.!!!!!!!!!!1



Asili Said on

I agree with the lawthese young men need to learn to have respect forthe society in which they live. I personal hate to see this.



Hawk Said on

I think a law should be pass fining people who do this. Time and time again we see this all over. I shouldn’t have to be subjected on knowing what type of draws you have on. That should be your own personal business. Larry I do agree with you on how the country is taken God out of the picture and now is paying for it. UMlaw it’s not forcing you to pray it an option. Just as it is accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior (Revelation: 3:20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me).



Who wears the pants? Said on

If you want saggy pants thats your buisness.
As long as you don’t do it in these few selected places, you should be alright: church, wake, funeral, wedding, job interview, place of buisness.



Glorypraze Said on

MY OPINION, MY son wears baggy jeans but in descent respectable way. His draws never show and he do not wear them to his knees. What make it so bad is when their underwear, boxers, draws are showing. This style started in prison when one inmate is inviting the other inmate to a booty call. DOWNLOW, to be exact. They brought it out of prison and it is NOT good. MANY DO NOT KNOW ACTUALLY WHAT THEY ARE SAYING WITH THEIR CLOTHING……



OVERTA Said on

Sometime I wonder if t he ACLU is against Black people, especially our children. Everything that is good for our kids they find fault with.



Larry Said on

UMLaw: at first all I can say Is WOW to you because the Bible said that we should not worship the sun,moon,statues or anything else other than himself Because he is a Jealous GOD and the bible says that it is a dangerous thing to fall in the hands of a Jealous GOD,some one has poison your mind,and if your mind has been poisoned from believing in the one and only true GOD then you are on the verge of a mind like pharoah a reprobate mind which means to be rejected of GOD to be called the child/children of GOD,the bible says,the bible says that the fool has said in his own heart that there is no GOD,and if you keep this mind that you have then you will be the only one that will have to face GOD upon your judgement amongst those who will be going to Heaven and if they are going to be going to Heaven then where does that make your place of all eternity will be the other place that starts with an H,brother or sister your are walking on dangerous Grounds because to be of the world is to be enmity toward Against GOD/which means you are GODS enemy.



Missunderstood Said on

OVERTA-If it is something that is good for OUR kids, its our responsibility to teach, not legislation. This imposes on self expression and will create another classification for racial profiling. I think that we need to see beyond whether baggy pants should be worn. Its a matter of imposing laws that will have substantial affects on young black males. Frankly, I don’t like the “goth” look that many young whites wear, its demonic and offensive, however, there is no legislation to oppose this. We need to be smarter about the laws we support. Honestly, the clothes are the LEAST of our worries, money and energy SHOULD be spent elsewhere. Its time to stop condemning our youth and start instructing and educating them on HOW TO.



Clay Said on

The concept that “baggy” pants are the issue is a misconception. Youngsters that wear their pants in such fashion, (if I would dare use the term fashion in the same sentence), could care less about pants being baggy. They simply need them to be large enough to sag and bunch low in the crotch or between their knees and lower. Most pants sizes worn by these misguided youths are so large, that “tying” them around the buttocks, and thighs, is the only way to keep the pants on at all. For some reason, it has become “vogue” to show your behind in public. My wonderment is, for whom is these butts displayed? Do they show their behinds, fancy underwear, (often dirty and streaked), for females or males? Who is the defiance targeted against, the government, establishment in general? I think the concept of decency should prevail and that society has right to determine if lewd and lascivious behavior offend the public morality; moreover, societal laws should retain the right to curtail and/or legislate public behavior. However, I disagree that these under the butt displays are homosexual in nature. I do not believe that the display of butts in drawers has a homosexual leaning. Such behavior is more akin to thuggish gangsterism and misplaced values propagated by hip hop and sub-culture anti-socialism, and perhaps society needs to looks to eradicating these behaviors and with it will go the pants tied around the mid-thighs displaying behinds in public. It is horrible and looks terrible. Prisoners without belts, does not itself promote homosexuality. There are many other snares and circumstances which promote homosexuality in prisons, just as there are those manifestations in any same sexed environments, despite the down low, or should I dare say, the public’s pretense and denial of the existence of rampant homosexuality in all exclusive male environments, such as: the boy scouts, all boys schools, colleges and universities, the military, sports and athletics, (especially professional sports), and of course, prisons. While not all males participate in such behaviors, many do at least for the time spent in such environments. It has always existed as such and will continue to exist as such and NONE of this has anything to do with wearing pants with the waists tied around the thighs.



Gina Said on

Okay people this fad, trend, or fashion statement need to be buried and done away with. Showing your underwear is an indecency and I don’t won’t my grandmother, mother, daughters nor sons for that matter to see such disgusting behavior of these young people. I can’t even say that they are young men and women, because a true young man or woman will not behave in such behavior. Pull up your pants and put a belt on. I’m for the law change and the “law is for the lawless and disobedient”, I Timothy 1:9 and God want “Decency”, I Corinthians 14:40. Pull them up…..



Ralph Walton Said on

While I was growing up I never thought about wearing my clothing down to my knees like a lot of other young men that I mostly see .I think they look at this like its cool and everything but it a trend or phase that you go through while growing-up. Of couse they’ll blame it on rappers but it didnt just start there it started at least 15 years ago as a fashion trend but to me its some peoples style but it looks disgrading to these older heads .The belt loops on your clothing aren’t on their for nothing PULL UP YOUR KIDS CLOTHS because just like the seat belt law this another easy money maker for the system……



The Truth Speaker Said on

The problem is that kids do what they see adults do. We must teach self pride. No man or woman will ever get a good job walking in the door with you butt hanging out of your pants, shirt not tucked in, or the gold teeth in your mouth.



John Lewis Said on

I must say I do believe that there are way more important issues that we could focus on but I can also see how they can come about creating a law like this, but I hate to hear that ppl will be fined and jail, but I can relate, because sagging of pants and revealing your under garments can be seen as an act of nudity, and some people can feel harrassed or uncomfortable with people openly reveling nudity, b/c often times it’s not just adults that someones underwear is visible to but also their children are forced to see underwear, I’ve seen people walk down the street with no shirt on and pants sagging below their butts revealing way more than 3″ of their underwear, but I don’t know if our law enforement needs to turn into the fashion police but I definitely do think it is an issue that needs to be addressed, I use to sagg my pants, until my aunt told me the meaning behind it, it came from Jail, and that how the “Punks” in jail walked around for easy access, and b/c they aren’t given belts in jail.



DJTONYLOVE Said on

First off, I am a proud African American Brother, 100% pro black !!! 25 year member of the NAACP, 25 year black greek member. Saggy Pants have nothing to do with being a true Black man in this country. As Chris Rock said, I love black folks, I hate Neegus !!! Lets call it what it is. True black men, would not be caught dead, with this ignorant fashionless garbage. An idiot should be treated like one, be it a fine or jail time, phk the color line in this. Lets not offend my people as if this law targets African American men, it targets ignorance, which comes in all colors !!!! What if Obama were to sport this ridiculous look on national tv, would we say, oh he is just being black? Hell no, cuz that would be an insult to my entire race!!!! How bout Tiger Woods, TD Jakes, Steve Harvey, Michael Jordan, Rev Sharpton, Floyd Flake, or David Dinkins, shall I continue??? Does this law target these men, of all different backgrounds??? Of course not, it targets the worse of our culture, and enough is enough!!! I ask these idiots, of my race, to learn their history of the black man, and please, stop degrading us with ignorance…..This has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with self hatred and unprovoked ignorance !!!! The time to stop the non sense has now arrived!!!



JAEMAR Said on

James Brown’s older verteran band The JB’s teamed up with his latest band The Soul Generals two months after he passed to continue his legacy a released a project song entitled “Pull Your Pants Up’. This message was recorded and released to be used as an tool to convey a message to young “multi-cultural’ inner city communities, to encourage the “Saggin” population to regain their dignity and self respect. The JB’s have been unsuccessful in getting main stream radio to air this message. These legends in the industry have fallen on hard times since Mr. Brown’s death and d o not have the finances to market this song. Instead of fines and jail time lets reach the young people through music the universal language.
Kindly view the following information:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUoBbpgvSyk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBHDNchL-8w

Co-Producer “Pull Your Pants Up”
Jaemar333@hotmail.com



Patt Said on

Whats taking the orther cities so long Its be a long time coming



lynn Said on

UMLAW…there is a place hotter than the sun, this place does not create life but it will serve death and pain. I feel sorry for people who use their minds to create a God from something that will die one day. It shows how simple they really are, no dreams, no vision, just living for the next day. The Devil loves people like that , they are easy Pray for him because they only worship in them selves and science. they think that man can do anything in time and space. It is easy for these people to see other people as items , they begain to view them selves as being smarter and stronger, than other people. And on the flip side you got the same type of thought with the Cult Religions.



Bro. Jay Said on

Lynn your to much ,got me rolling…
Olatunji your 100% correct I been telling people this for years,
that the fashion of letting your pants hang off you butt started in
prison, it’s a sign of prositution, in prison they would pass your azz
around for a pack of cigarettes wearing your pants like that…………
We here in Chicago want to see that law here, stop with the baggy pants.