Clinton Wins
January 9th, 2008Here are the numbers:
Democrats
Clinton 84,776 39%
Obama 78,242 36
Edwards 36,446 17
Richardson 9,926 5
Kucinich 2,931 1
Gravel 303 0
Republicans
McCain 64,789 37%
Romney 55,793 32
Huckabee 19,643 11
Giuliani 15,037 9
Paul 13,623 8
Thompson 2,108 1
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good night for Obama, we knew the would happen. All the tears by Ms Clinton, next she and Bill will pander to blacks in the Southern primaries claiming to be their old lost buddy. IF we the New Democrat and Independent Party allow the old ultra Left, the same Left that runs Hollywood yet give people of color no power in it, the same ultra left that complains about the Iraq War being a tool to get oil yet wont let you drill in Alaska for fear of harming a moose, the same group that made promises for 8 years, yet wouldnt support Gore or Kerry and sacrifice 8 years of Bush for their own agenda. The same group that come to you CHurch Once time every 4 years just to promise what theyre do in the next.If we want this this We deserve our outcome. Lets push Obama issues: what are they HEalthcare plan, plan to deal with Foreign Extremists threat….we should care being that a good percentage of our boys and girls will go over there to defend any efforts, and his plan most of all for economic empowerment.
The bottom lie, Hillary Clinon will win the Deomocratic nomination and she definitely has my vote. GO HILLARY!!!! Men are just pissed because they can not show the same level of emotion women can without being seen as soft or gay. So what, Hillary got emotional…we as woman…we do that…get over it people!
If this presidential thing doesn’t work out, Hillary Clinton should at least get a great book out of it. After all, not everybody lives to tell about dying. She can begin by paraphrasing Mark Twain’s line that reports of her death were premature.
Actually, she was more than dead. She was buried. It wasn’t a matter of whether Barack Obama would thrash her in New Hampshire. After his rout in Iowa and the huge, passionate crowds he was pulling, that was a given. The only issue was whether the margin would be so overwhelming that Clinton would have to wave a white, tear-soaked handkerchief.
The outcome was so certain that it fed its own rumor mill. Reports had it that Clinton was planning a housecleaning of her staff. The money was drying up. She might even pull out of Nevada and South Carolina, where she didn’t stand a chance against the Obama bandwagon.
Never mind. Wow, what a comeback. Like a magician, Clinton pulled a victory out of a hat when she needed it most. No matter what happens in Nevada and South Carolina, her convincing win last night guarantees she’ll still be standing during the multistate sweepstakes of Feb. 5.
Her suggestion in her victory speech that “I found my voice,” ostensibly in that emotional teariness on Monday, is sure to feed the theory that it was planned. Whatever it was, she has evened the score.
Now Obama suddenly has a peck of trouble. Blowing a big lead down the stretch amounts to a demoralizing collapse that reveals an inability to close the sale. His concession speech, which conceded only last night’s loss while vowing a fight to the finish, was powerful, but questions about what went wrong in New Hampshire will shadow him until he wins again.
In the psychological battle, the bandwagon has switched sides and Clinton’s got the momentum.
There were hints the script might be rewritten in the last days. Despite polls showing Obama building a double-digit lead, Clinton drew big, enthusiastic crowds. And as John McCain surged on the GOP side, there was reason to believe he would draw independents who might otherwise go to Obama.
But Clinton herself deserves great credit for not giving up. She was the front-runner until the last week, and suddenly she was a relic. She could have quit, but she scrapped and snarled like a junkyard dog at Obama. She served coffee at rallies and shared her pain in that diner.
And now she lives to fight another day. And the rest of us get to enjoy one of the great faceoffs in recent history.
Put your seat belts on. This one has a long way to go
Michael Goodwin
Daily News NYC
You know if Clinton was to win the democratic party the notion of her emotion will be the reason for her victory, whether it’s wrong or right that thought, will not absolve.
Obamas’ skin should be a reason for voting for him if you’re are a person of color. For Hillary, being a women, but to vote for a nominee based on emotions is not right or to use their emotions to buy votes.
I like to ask one thing. Were all the ballots counted. Now we all know that DICTATOR Bush got in and all the Ballot weren’t! And NO POLITICIAN complained, so why would they change anything as far as counting ballot now. And I call bush a DICTATOR because he didn’t win in stole it. Like Ron Paul Their are a lot of white people I work with that said None of voter who voted for Ron Paul in the NH caucus were ever counted. Now if it happen to him You know it will happen to barack!
Also I love Hilary & Barack. But I DON’T LIKE POLITICIANS! Because once they do get some experence, it mostly about defruading, lieing ,stealing from the people they’re there to help & serve. So experience don’t mean a lot to me when it comes to politics. I do believe it is the time of change. This is the year of change. Those scare tactied that been use shouldn’t work anymore, We as Black America can’t live in fear anymore, because God our Lord didn’t give that to us. And in change you can’t use the experience politician. because they’ve already in the habit of the old ways. Which haven’t worked in the last 40 years I’ve been livin . You need someone NEW someone thats out ot that box, Just like King David did for Isrealite. No one believed he was ready either. Now the whole world know King Davids story.
PEOPLE PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU GET OUT AND VOTE DESPITE WHAT YOU HEAR ON THE NEWS ABOUT WHO’S IN THE LEAD AND WHO THEY THINK IS GOING TO WIN. I think it was two factors that caused her to win. The first is that women ended up feeling sympathy for her when she cried, also add to the fact that the media was being cruel to her after her loss in Iowa. Did some of you see the nasty headlines? I feel a lot of women in NH were like no way. My second thought is that a lot of people were watching and reading the media and seeing that Obama was projected to win with a double digit lead that a fair amount of people stayed home as well as got to the voting stations and saw the long lines and left. If enough people hear it enough that a certain person is going to win anyway and they are a suppoter of the person and they have something else to do or whatever, they just go ahead and skip it. THIS IS WHY I SAY POEPLE MAKE SURE YOU VOTE DESPITE WHAT YOU HEAR OR READ IN THE MEDIA. THIS LESSON SHOULD SHOW PEOPLE NOT TO ALWAYS TRUST THE SO CALLED POLLS.
ALSO BLACK PEOPLE DON’T THINK THAT THE CLINTONS ARE ABOVE USING RACE AS A FACTOR TO TAKE OUT OBAMA. Personally I don’t feel that Bill and Hillary are racist, but they will use race to win this nomination. Look I picked up on things that was being said when obabma started surging. That comment about him using cocaine and his muslim back ground came from the Clinton camp. Also hearing Bill Clinton say things like Obama is a fairytale as well as his comment that the country wuill be rolling the dice with Obama just implies to me that Bill is pandering to white people and their fears about Black people. i may be wrong, but i don’t think so. All I’m saying is please don’t think that the Clintons play the race card.
I like Hillary, but i don’t feel that she is a 100 percent sincere. I think that Hillary has been in politics as well as Washington to long to be as truly effective as she claim she will be. Hillary takes a lot of money from corperations as well as her racking up a lot of political favors that she is going to have to pay back. I honestly feel that the only thing she may get done is the healthcare for all. Everything else is going to be more of the same. The clintons are the status quo of the democratic party like the Bush’s are to the Republicans. I truly feel that Either Obama
or Edwards will make more change then her, but not that much change considering the fact that the president as well as the congress and senate all have to be on the same page and unless the Dems sweep both houses come November the republicans have enough power to hold things up.
WHY ARE WE NOT SUPPORTING A BLACK MAN WHO HAS A VISION AND HOPE. THAT’S WHAT’S WRONG WITH OUR PEOPLE. WHAT IF MLK WALKED AWAY FROM HIS DREAM BECASUE THE VERY SAME INORGANT NEGROS HE WAS TRYING TO HELP DISMISSED HIS HOPE.
THE CLINTONS ARE HEADED TO SOUTH CAROLINA TO TARGET THE BLACK UNEDUCATED AND FOOD STAMP GROUP BECASUE THEY KNOW WE STILL BELIEVE THEY ARE FOR BLACKS. THEY ARE REALLY INSULTING YOU BUT WE CAN’T SEE IT.
THE WOMAN VOTER
THE WOMAN in question became a lawyer after some years as a community organizer, married a corporate lawyer and is the mother of two little girls, ages 9 and 6. Herself the daughter of a white American mother and a black African father — in this race-conscious country, she is considered black — she served as a state legislator for eight years, and became an inspirational voice for national unity.
Be honest: Do you think this is the biography of someone who could be elected to the United States Senate? After less than one term there, do you believe she could be a viable candidate to head the most powerful nation on earth?
If you answered no to either question, you’re not alone. Gender is probably the most restricting force in American life, whether the question is who must be in the kitchen or who could be in the White House. This country is way down the list of countries electing women and, according to one study, it polarizes gender roles more than the average democracy.
That’s why the Iowa primary was following our historical pattern of making change. Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women (with the possible exception of obedient family members in the latter).
If the lawyer described above had been just as charismatic but named, say, Achola Obama instead of Barack Obama, her goose would have been cooked long ago. Indeed, neither she nor Hillary Clinton could have used Mr. Obama’s public style — or Bill Clinton’s either — without being considered too emotional by Washington pundits.
So why is the sex barrier not taken as seriously as the racial one? The reasons are as pervasive as the air we breathe: because sexism is still confused with nature as racism once was; because anything that affects males is seen as more serious than anything that affects “only” the female half of the human race; because children are still raised mostly by women (to put it mildly) so men especially tend to feel they are regressing to childhood when dealing with a powerful woman; because racism stereotyped black men as more “masculine” for so long that some white men find their presence to be masculinity-affirming (as long as there aren’t too many of them); and because there is still no “right” way to be a woman in public power without being considered a you-know-what.
I’m not advocating a competition for who has it toughest. The caste systems of sex and race are interdependent and can only be uprooted together. That’s why Senators Clinton and Obama have to be careful not to let a healthy debate turn into the kind of hostility that the news media love. Both will need a coalition of outsiders to win a general election. The abolition and suffrage movements progressed when united and were damaged by division; we should remember that.
I’m supporting Senator Clinton because like Senator Obama she has community organizing experience, but she also has more years in the Senate, an unprecedented eight years of on-the-job training in the White House, no masculinity to prove, the potential to tap a huge reservoir of this country’s talent by her example, and now even the courage to break the no-tears rule. I’m not opposing Mr. Obama; if he’s the nominee, I’ll volunteer. Indeed, if you look at votes during their two-year overlap in the Senate, they were the same more than 90 percent of the time. Besides, to clean up the mess left by President Bush, we may need two terms of President Clinton and two of President Obama.
But what worries me is that he is seen as unifying by his race while she is seen as divisive by her sex.
What worries me is that she is accused of “playing the gender card” when citing the old boys’ club, while he is seen as unifying by citing civil rights confrontations.
What worries me is that male Iowa voters were seen as gender-free when supporting their own, while female voters were seen as biased if they did and disloyal if they didn’t.
What worries me is that reporters ignore Mr. Obama’s dependence on the old — for instance, the frequent campaign comparisons to John F. Kennedy — while not challenging the slander that her progressive policies are part of the Washington status quo.
What worries me is that some women, perhaps especially younger ones, hope to deny or escape the sexual caste system; thus Iowa women over 50 and 60, who disproportionately supported Senator Clinton, proved once again that women are the one group that grows more radical with age.
This country can no longer afford to choose our leaders from a talent pool limited by sex, race, money, powerful fathers and paper degrees. It’s time to take equal pride in breaking all the barriers. We have to be able to say: “I’m supporting her because she’ll be a great president and because she’s a woman.”
WE CAN THANK THE POWER HUNGRY CLINTONS (Especially Bill)FOR GIVING THE REPUBLICANS TREMENDOUS AMUNITION!! They are so dead set on winning that they will destroy any candiate no matter what the cost. Did BRAIN DEAD BILL CLINTON stop and think before he made comments like “America can not afford to roll the dice with obama” or “Obama is just a fairy tale” or “Obama doesn’t have the experience to lead” or “Obama doesn’t have the experience on national sercurity” that he is giving the republican party a hell of a lot of amunition to use against obama if he beats Hillary? The problem with the Clintons is that they think that Hillary is GOING TO BE THE WINNER. If Obama wins he will emerge as a much weaker thatnks to dumb @ss Bill Clinton. The republicans will surly play those sound bits with him saying all thoses negatives against obama.
All you guys supporting Hillary and thinking that she can win will be fooled come Nov. Hillary will not beat Mike Hukabee, who I think is going to be the winner on the Republicans side. Hillary is to polarizing. She will not get the independants, who will be needed to win. Registered democrats is not enough to win the white house in Nov.
(I am an independent voter)
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(To clean up the mess left by President Bush, we may
need two terms of both MRS. President Clinton and two of
MR. President Obama.)
THE WOMAN IN QUESTION?
A WOMAN in question became a lawyer after some years
as a community organizer, married a corporate lawyer
and is the mother of two little girls, ages 9 and 6.
Herself the daughter of a white American mother and a
black African father — in this race-conscious country,
she is considered black — she served as a state
legislator for eight years, and became an
inspirational voice for national unity.
Be honest: Do you think this is the biography of
someone who could be elected to the United States
Senate? After less than one term there, do you believe
she could be a viable candidate to head the most
powerful nation on earth?
If you answered no to either question, you’re not
alone. Gender is probably the most restricting force
in American life, whether the question is who must be
in the kitchen or who could be in the White House.
This country is way down the list of countries
electing women and, according to one study, it
polarizes gender roles more than the average
democracy.
That’s why the Iowa primary was following our
historical pattern of making change. BLACK MEN WERE
GIVEN THE VOTE A HALF-CENTURY BEFORE WOMAN of any race
were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have
ascended to positions of power, from the military to
the boardroom, before any women (with the possible
exception of obedient family members in the latter).
If the lawyer described above had been just as
charismatic but named, say, Achola Obama instead of
Barack Obama, her goose would have been cooked long
ago. Indeed, neither she nor Hillary Clinton could
have used Mr. Obama’s public style — or Bill Clinton’s
either — without being considered too emotional by
Washington pundits.
So why is the sex barrier not taken as seriously as
the racial one? The reasons are as pervasive as the
air we breathe: because sexism is still confused with
nature as racism once was; because anything that
affects males is seen as more serious than anything
that affects “only” the female half of the human race;
because children are still raised mostly by women (to
put it mildly) so men especially tend to feel they are
regressing to childhood when dealing with a powerful
woman; because racism stereotyped black men as more
“masculine” for so long that some white men find their
presence to be masculinity-affirming (as long as there
aren’t too many of them); and because there is still
no “right” way to be a woman in public power without
being considered a you-know-what.
I’m not advocating a competition for who has it
toughest. The caste systems of sex and race are
interdependent and can only be uprooted together.
That’s why Senators Clinton and Obama have to be
careful not to let a healthy debate turn into the kind
of hostility that the news media love. Both will need
a coalition of outsiders to win a general election.
The abolition and suffrage movements progressed when
united and were damaged by division; we should
remember that.
I’m supporting Senator Clinton because like Senator
Obama she has community organizing experience, but she
also has more years in the Senate, an unprecedented
eight years of on-the-job training in the White House,
no masculinity to prove, the potential to tap a huge
reservoir of this country’s talent by her example, and
now even the courage to break the no-tears rule. I’m
not opposing Mr. Obama; if he’s the nominee, I’ll
volunteer. Indeed, if you look at votes during their
two-year overlap in the Senate, they were the same
more than 90 percent of the time. Besides, to clean up
the mess left by President Bush, we may need two terms
of President Clinton and two of President Obama.
But what worries me is that he is seen as unifying by
his race while she is seen as divisive by her sex.
What worries me is that she is accused of “playing the
gender card” when citing the old boys’ club, while he
is seen as unifying by citing civil rights
confrontations.
What worries me is that male Iowa voters were seen as
gender-free when supporting their own, while female
voters were seen as biased if they did and disloyal if
they didn’t.
What worries me is that reporters ignore Mr. Obama’s
dependence on the old — for instance, the frequent
campaign comparisons to John F. Kennedy — while not
challenging the slander that her progressive policies
are part of the Washington status quo.
What worries me is that some women, perhaps especially
younger ones, hope to deny or escape the sexual caste
system; thus Iowa women over 50 and 60, who
disproportionately supported Senator Clinton, proved
once again that women are the one group that grows
more radical with age.
This country can no longer afford to choose our
leaders from a talent pool limited by sex, race,
money, powerful fathers and paper degrees. It’s time
to take equal pride in breaking all the barriers. We
have to be able to say: “I’m supporting her because
she’ll be a great president and because she’s a
woman.”
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I wanted Hillary to run for president and would have voted for her until I watched her debate and didn’t like what she was saying. I listen to Obama and now think that he is a better choice and will make a better president and not because he is Black. I think that Hillary is so much apart of Wahington politics that we blacks will get alot of the same old things…taken for granted. And as far as her getting all choked up and possibly getting votes for it in New Hampshire…that is going to come back to bit her in the ass, you watch. The republicans are going to eat-her-up. They are going to use that against her to say that she will fold under pressure, that she is not presidential material.
Have you watched her commercials and her speeches lately? Sounds to me that she is taking pages from Obamas speeches patterned herself after him…no original ideas of her own. She will do what ever she has to to win and leave us hanging in the end.
Don’t get it twisted my brothers and sisters…Bill Clinton was not our first Black president…but Obama can be.
I believe that MLK through the miracle of film, will educate the world before this coming holiday celebration on how to make peace in our world, and our future like never before - the world and all human beings will be influenced to start a movement to achieve global peace in the international community in our lifetime for generations to come. MLK will be proud in his spirit and his spirit will bring us together.
He understood that peace is possible. When you look at the old black and white footage from that time in history, before their was the rainbow of color we see now… you will be so moved, the world will understand. Look it up on the internet. You will see one of the greatest events in world history that will give us an example of how to move forward, starting today. Though MLK was not running for president at the time… THE PRESIDENT at the time in our history signed the paper… and gave MLK the pen - TOGETHER making the dream a reality.
God is amazing!
Amen.
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