Obama Crushes Clinton!
By Pamela Gentry, Senior Poltical Producer
COLUMBIA, S.C. (Posted Jan. 26, 2008) – After a hard-fought battle that clearly put the “Bill Clinton Mojo” in question among Black voters, Sen. Barack Obama Saturday obliterated his top rival Sen. Hillary Clinton in the South Carolina primary.
“After four great contest, we have the most votes, the most delegates and the most diverse coalition of Americans,” Obama told a cheering crowd of three thousand.
This week’s brutal contest, which largely was fought over the ballots of Black folks, perhaps had as much to do with ex-president Bill Clinton’s comments about “race” as it did about the actual key issues affecting Americans of all races.
But, as exit polls clearly showed, Obama’s message of change – versus Hillary Clinton’s emphasis on experience – resonated with voters other than African Americans.
David Axelrod, senior campaign manager for Obama, said, “This [the outcome] is a strong repudiation of these tactics.”
The good news for Obama is that, despite all the attention given the very volatile issue of race – particularly in the South, which has a longstanding history of racial strife – he was able to capture 25 percent of the overall White vote, and an astounding 50 percent of White voters under 30. By contrast, only 7 percent of Whites voted for the Rev. Jesse Jackson in this state in the 1988 Democratic primary.
But, it’s not the first time during this tense primary season that Obama has been able to attract enthusiastic support among Whites. In both Iowa, which he won, and New Hampshire, which he lost by a mere 3 percentage points, there are virtually no African-American candidates to speak of.
But it’s not as if the Black vote is not important, or that the Obama camp doesn’t recognize the significance of it. He bested both Clinton and former Sen. John Edwards four-to-one among Black voters.
Obama supporters crowded into the Columbia Metropolitan Convention Center, cheering loudly and fired up to go as the election results poured in. Cutis Thomas, 27, from Greensboro, N.C., said, “We’re heading into a recession, and during these times of economic devastation and the war in Iraq, we need a man that’s spans racial and cultural lines and speaks to everyone.”
An hour after the polls closed Clinton sent a statement to the press, saying she has called and congratulated Obama and was now turning her attention to the Super Tuesday states.
“Thank you to the people of South Carolina who voted today and welcomed me into their homes over the last year. “We now turn our attention to the millions of Americans who will make their voices heard in Florida and the twenty-two states as well as American Samoa who will vote on February 5,” Clinton said.
Now the remaining question will be how long will Edwards remain in the race and whom will he endorse when he leaves?
Now the focus should be on central moderate issues, healthcare, economic re-engineering, foreign policy…corporate tax decrease to increase more jobs at home…these issues will rang with all people. California, New Jersey, New York, Georgia all hang in the balance…Its there for the taking
And all those so-called black leaders who have never ran for elective office or earned any votes that were not black should take note. For too long they have traded the Negro vote for their own personal gain and Barack’s candidacy is here to put a stop to that. I believe some o these fat cats own multi-million US dollar villas in the exclusive Casa de Campo in the Dominican Republic right next to the Clintons. This just might be the right time to take an extended vacation….there’s a new sheriff in town and it doesn’t look like he takes prisoners.
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I think African AMericans, youth, and All Americans should feel hopeful today and proud of what happened in SC. Despite the polls, Barack got more support from all parties than was projected….
NOW…take note….after Billary finished third in Iowa she stuck around to thank her people. After Edwards and Barack finished behind Billary in the other primaries they stuck around to thank their people…Guess who skipped town before the polls even closed…..? This is what the Clintons think of you….this is how they use people, right Uncle Bob Johnson? After all the volunteers and time put into SC…THEY LEFT!
Did you hear me….THEY LEFT! THEY LEFT! So on behalf of BIllary to the people of SC..ALL the people of SC here is my way of saying thanks…SEE YA!
I just wish democrats didn’t feel the need to bash one candidate to show allegiance to the other. Both Obama and Hillary are great candidates who would bring good change to the country. Is it so hard to just wish them both the best?
I understand your frustration Miss E, yet if you go back to the campaigns way back in the 90s the CLintons have always had this burn and pillage strategy. Its all or nothing. They use the methodology of not only defeating their rivals yet destroying their characters so they cant come back against them. The only difference this time is that its Obama, not another Democrat or Republican; so its more noticable. Now I admit, the republicans are smarter, they dont destroy each other so it creates a better cohesive ticket for them. Yet what we have here is not just a choice for the Democratic Party, this is Historic…..This is a change from the Old Guard, which has ran the Democratic Party for 40 years, to the New Generation. Not new in turns of age persay, yet new in turns of idealism. Barack represents a more moderative and conservative approach which is well needed to unite the Country. Its a more contemporary idealism that handles more contemporay issues since the evolution of America and Civil Rights movement. He speaks more of conservative economic and moderate fiscal financial strategies which have not been traditionally a trademark of the recent Democratic Party. Now its focus on Super Tuesday and Florida. His speech was very inspiring last night. Thats unite America for Change
Hay Joe. I agree with you. The M.O. of the Clintons is being “outted” as they go around with that destructive way of killing off anyone that gets in their way. Just last night,Bill Clinton tried to dismiss Obama’s win by saying, “well, Jessie Jackson won South Carolina”. What the hell does Jessie have to do with anything? I think that Bill’s real self is being shown here. There were many charges made against him by the Republicans concerning his methods back in the day. Many of us actually defended him; I feel almost ashamed to admit that today. But he is employing those methods now. He brings Jessie into the race to bring to mind “race”. And to dismiss the people, particularly the Black voters of South Carolina. He is injecting “race” into this Presidential race. But watch how he attempts to make it seem as if Obama is doing it. And watch how some of the Clinton supporters act as if the Clintons can do no wrong. And although Bill is continuing his “race baiting”, the Clinton supporters will most likely make it seem like it was Obama. SAD!
Remember! Bill said after Obama won South Carolina; “oh well, Jessie Jackson won South Carolina”. Can anyone tell me what Bill was trying to communicate? Not JUST what he said. But what was his intention for saying it? We should know by now. But as I said; many of the Clinton supporters particularly, will make it seem like Obama has injected “race” into this thing. SAD!!
Also. Do any of you recall the “lead that Hillary Clinton seem to have had among “Black ” voters in South Carolina earlier in the race. How comfortable, and friendly the Clintons were. How this was the “all” important State to win. Now the Clintons have all but dismiss South Carolina! Does anyone recall that?
Yes old George George Stephanopoulos of ABC News, former Clinton Aide by the way, who runs the Political forum on ABC NEWS is trying to get Obaman to Bash Clinton on the aire this morning. Tis Tis….
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Joe-
I saw that also, he tried very hard to get Obama caught up but he handled his business…..
Remember people your thanks was there goodbye!
The clinton’s only luv ya for one week in an election year!
Please come to Huntington, West Virginia and talk some sence into some of these slave mantality black people. There saying their not voting for Obama because their scared he might get killed.
WE ALWAYS PRAY WHEN WE IN TROUBLE WHY CANT WE PRAY FOR OBAMA… I MEAN MY CHILDREN MAY SEE THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT AND MY CHILDREN WILL BE APART OF HISTORY THIS FEELS LIKE A BLESSING TO ME..OBAMA 2008
OBAMA WILL GO WHEN GOD SAY’S IT’S HIS TIME TO GO…
Mrs. Powell-
One thing I tell people when they say is, why let fear control not only there vote but their life. Would his wife be ok with him running if she thought he would be in danger….FOLLOW her lead if nothing else.
Fear is what this country wants us to live in…fear of terroism, fear of recession, fear of assasination….replace fear with faith.
THIS MAY BE THE ONE CHANCE WE GET TO HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT AND WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!! WE NEED TO STOP THINKING BACK IN THE 60′S, THIS IS A NEW DAY AND TIME.
VOTE VOTE VOTE OBAMA 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m a black woman who is supporting Senator Hillary Clinton. As much as I love how Senator Obama is representative of the type of black people I know to be the majority of our community and not the stereotype, he needs to give me substance and not beautifully delivered speeches. As a professional black woman, I’m not concerned about being someone’s cheerleader and supporting a person because of my race or gender, even when I’m told that it’s to my own detriment. Of course, I want to see history made with the first black man in office, but I don’t believe in going from intern to CEO in 5 seconds. Don’t talk about change, be about it. We’re concerned about the fact that we’re raising our children alone; less likely to be married and caring for our families on a single-family income. We’re worried about the cost of healthcare and daycare; educating ourselves and our children; feeding our families; paying our student loans; protecting our children from the violence on the streets; and deciding which bills are priority when our paychecks comes in. I’m 30 and concerned about planning for my retirement because unlike those who are living the perfect “American Dream,” with a big house and family, I can’t rely on the fact that I’ll have someone there to support me in my old age. I have to support myself and I have to start making decisions that are in my best interest. So please forgive me if I choose to look at the issues, watch the debates, and for once not lead the parade only to be left on the sideline wondering when it’s our turn to be cared for and supported.
After watching the debates, who is it that you believe has debated effectively and will pose the biggest challenge to the republicans in the general election? I implore black women to vote your conscience, because society and unfortunately our own men have already demonstrated what they think of us and how very little they value us.
Hillary supporter - now honestly if you don’t know how Barack stands on the issues, you have only yourself to blame. His position papers are all over the web. Check out his website, do a few google searches come on! It sounds as if you’ve been programmed by the Clintons.
Good to see everyone is charged up. Yet my sentiments are with Barack. THis is WHEN THE HARD BEGINS. Those in the Super TUesday States, NJ,Illinos,Jersey,GA, Cali, NY etc. Please forward Obama bluebook for Change to someone. It is on his website. Ms. Powell, you can check also very formative information on Obama proposals and solutions to America issues. I think from this point Obama will focus on the ISSUES, not Race, yet how He will WIn this Race. It will be imperative to re-Spin the Clintons and media perspective that Obama is a special minority interest only leader. The delusion that Ms. Clinton is better equipped to handle healthcare and the economy is missleading. Check her voting record. Obama should re-iterate his plan on economic resurgence, capital tax reform, and social security. Hillary or Bill has yet to explain how they plan to reverse this looming recession or the War for that matter
Dear Hillary Supporter
I just read your comment and felt it my responsibility to justify to you that Barack Obama has the substance you are extensively looking for in a candidate. Like you said you have been watching debates and following the campaigns and I’m sure by now you are fed up with the rhetoric about change, but if you really looked at the way the democrat candidates have been conducting their campaigns you’ll see that Obama & Edwards have been the only ones actually implementing change by not taking lobbyists’ money to fund their campaigns. In essence this means that lobbyists which are insurance, and oil companies have invested in the Clinton campaign expecting the favor to be returned when or if Hillary becomes president and so when come January 2009 Hillary will do nothing more than just maintain the status quo so the insurance companies won’t have to change their strict policies and oil companies won’t be inclined to invest in alternate, cheaper fuels. So in terms of actually being about change Obama & Edwards are actually leading in that category and for Obama this extends to back when Obama was in college being the first black student to be the president of Harvard Law Review he had numerous job offers that he could have been making 1/2 million dollars straight out of college, but he chose instead to go help out on the southside of Chicago which is a low income area, by sarcificing a dream job and choosing to help underprivelleged people this says a lot about Barack’s character. In terms of change i personall feel Barack is honestly the one most likely to deliver and wont get stuck up in the washington ministrel show
I must say not only did she leave, she was disrespectful by not even giving he concession speech in SC. She left that for her husband and when I saw Mr. Clinton speak I thought how sad it was. It was very bad showmanship as a Political figure who is seeking your support and could not stay concede with you gracefully with Political Experience.
Hillary Supporter….
I have to agree with a previous poster…on these debates, commercials, and ads you will get substance from NO ONE. I decided to look at each candidates website and other info and made my decision from that….
Now truth be told, there stance on issues are not that far off from each other but here is the difference….NOTHING will get done in the White House without working together with….republicans, dems, and the American people. Hillary and Bill Clinton are to the Republicans, what Bush is to most Dems/us. It is a pure pure dislike and borderline hatred.
Bill and Hillary have a lot of Washington enemies that will handicap her presidency. You are right, don’t talk about change be about it…Weeeellll, has Hillary produced the healthcare plan you want in 35years? Has Hillary produced the retirement benefits you want to see in her 35 years experience? Shall I go on…Hillary for all she says she has done, has not much…ON HER OWN..thanks Bill.
Sister, Barack will unify this coutry to get results, his inspiration is not speech driven but true experience driven where I feel he has the pulse of the American people at heart….Hillary has now taken on “I am change too” but stay in your lane.
My mother at age 60plus, has NEVER been involved in politics until now…he has connected her…my 18 year old niece has NEVER been involved in politics…he has connected her….CHange does not come from the White House down, it starts with the people on UP. If you want change it will start with YOU sis, the people around you, and voting for someone who “has the heart” of the American people…..NOT a desire for POWER.
Remember SC and America…Hillary and Bill left you last night like a one night stand.
I value all of my black women by the way…my grandmother, mother, sisters, and my wife and you to Hillary supporter, it is not all of us.
One Sunday I visited with out walls church in 2006 there was a profitt there, who profized that we will have a christion president one day, and now i can see it coming to pass, because not only he’s a Blackman, but a man of God. People of the United states we need a man of God standing up for us not because he would be the first Blackman to be in office,but because he will make a difference’s in the way we all live and peace with one another. God Bless United states of America Aman!!!!!
Vote For The man of God OBAMA 2008!!!!!!
Senator Clinton’s health care plan did not pass because people purposely chose not to listen and support her. Whether or not it’s because she’s a woman, I don’t know; but I do know, as a professional, what it’s like to have your views ignored because of the package you come in. Now that it’s apparent what a mess health care is; everyone is on the healthcare bandwagon. But let’s not kid ourselves about who brought that issue to the forefront.
Kelin,
You’re right, the democrats do sound the same, but I’m not choosing the one that I hope can bring about change, but the one that I know can.
I’m also not so sure about Senator Obama not alienating some votes. Especially since he did not come out right away and denounce the fact that the Clinton LBJ comment was not racist. Instead, he chose to say that it was an “unfortunate” comment. She didn’t lie in her comment and if anyone knew their history, they would know that it was majority Republican congress that passed the Civil Rights Act (as much as I hate to admit that). When Chris Mathews called the people of NH and MA racist because Senator Obama did not win in NH, it turned people off. I’m from MA and I’ll be the first to tell you that it has plenty of issues, but race in this campaign was not the case. I campaigned for and saw the enthusiasm in the voters who elected Deval Patrick, the first black governor of MA. I’ll accept the hope and dream speech from my governor, but not my president. I also campaigned in NH and there was an equal amount of support for both candidates. Senator Obama only lost by 3% in NH, so how could race have been a factor? If it was, they would have overwhelmingly voted for Senator Edwards.
Sometimes we need to remove the mental shackles and think objectively for ourselves. Take an honest look at whether race was a factor or is it a media driven topic. They mentioned race and like Pavlovian dogs, we lost our natural minds. If after looking at everything, it’s in your heart to vote for Senator Obama, then good for you. I’m going to do the same and vote for who I feel represents my needs right now. If he gets the general nomination, then I’ll probably vote for him. I’m just happy that for once, we’re all actively participating and demonstrating the power that our vote truly has.
Hillary Supporter, I do respect your views for your candidate.You articulate well. Being to your admission an native resident of MA, your longtime Senator and patriarch to the Democratic Party Edward Kennedy and Caroline (JFK daughter) will officially announce their endorcement of Senator Obama today in Boston. Why is that? We can say, it is strategic. All is fair and nonpartisan. Yet we know it rangs more sounding than that.
I believe that through the 200 year plus of this nation we have developed a mentality of have and have nots within the American community. Whether we have the fiber to overcome or we have not the fortitude to dreamer higher. Now my family not only comes from the South (Louisiana) during the Civil Rights movement, yet have also been involved in the racist labor and busing redistricts in Boston during the 1970s. THis came from two traditional Democratic Party states mind you. Point made, Race does not define you true, yet it is in some way always played a factor in the Democratic Party particular. If you research, the socialistic forms of economic re-engineering instituted with the lower socialeconomic and minority communities within the Democratic base has created addiction more than independence. Marx defines these principles as redistribution before evolution to communism, yet my question is, in a capitalistic form of economy, how can you imply those principles on a base of people that had nothing or little to begin with? You eventually cripple the masses of them, only allowing a few of them to move as much as the dollar value would maintain them. Being a slave or shackle mentality as you mentioned to hand-outs and reliability on government programs. This strategy and school of thought formed the old Guard Democratic Party , which Ms. Clinton has supported continually with her voting record and her husband Mr. Clinton has run on. Now These young people on this board, i am not that old myself, yet I feel older than some here, are coming from a different perspective than what the traditional Democratic Party has offered them. THats why Obama is so appealing. You are a professional woman, well I am not only a professional man, I manage professionals and I see it all the time. Dont think they have and R or D on their corporate shirts. Most here, i can tell are young students up and coming, or even upper middle class professional themselves. As you know, well I do, taxes and being able to pay for the healthcare. Not to mention social security reform, you , I or they will not even have it when we retire based on Ms. Clinton platform. Read Obamas. Its on his website. Meanwhile Mr. Charlie Rangel, Clinton supporter, believes in raising taxes on those making close to 100k and higher, will that help the economy? that is again is socialistic outdated policies.WHy has Ms. Clinton denounced that? That only will dwarf a middle class from maintaining even lower. Ms. Clinton supported that plan. NAFTA, and CAFTA which Ms. Clinton and her husband both supported, drove the conscious of outsourcing overseas. This I do know because I manage this space. Obama believes in breaking the old rhetoric and lower corporate capital taxes to increase operating margins for corporations to reestablish jobs back in the US. Thats not Republican or Democratic yet just good fiscal sense. No company will pay 20.00 hr right now if they can go to Pune (India) and pay 10.00. So we have to look at new ways of doing things. That is what Obama has done, and will continue to do. THis is a movement, much like the 60s you are seeing. It is bigger than one man, Obama is just the messenger. Yet a very competent one!
THe need for this country is fiscal economic restructuring. Being an economist and capitalist by core, it is the benchmark to the improvement of a community within a capitalist form of government. Healthcare is important, yet if housing markets are going under, the debt of spending is increased, Healthcare can not be resolved. Not under the current way Hillary has proposed things. In other words the money has to come from somewhere. What Ms. Clinton has done is aligned herself with the Far Left, which focusses more environment issues, than creating expanding and optimizing resources within that environment.
Someone made the statement that Hilliary was the smartest woman in the world. It may have been said, but that doesn’t make it true. There are other women of all races as smart as her, some of those women were not educated as she, but still smart in their own right.
However, Hilliary is stun and don’t know what to do. Why, because a unexperienced black man, as she puts it, is a thorn in her flesh. Whether he wins the presidency, I don’t know. But as Black Americans, we should feel proud. Blacks better stop letting the white man pit us against each other. The Clintons strategy was to divide.
If Hilliary is so experience as she claim, why is she allowing her husband to come to her rescue. Be her own woman and fight her own battle. Yes, be a support, but the two were playing dirty and they knew it and their cover was blown.
All I can say, Obama, from what I see is trying to bring people together, of all races, parties. People are tired of fighting against one another.
Lady W…I agree with you 100%. People seem to discount the fact of hope, unity, and cross party team work in this election. In this country….we fight Iraq, Iran, N.Korea, and Bin Laden….and we fight each other.
Will Barrack cure racism no, but his presidency will expose to America and those around the world, that there is a generation in this country that can put aside…differences in race, gender, and economics and work together for what is best for us ALL….YOUNG, OLD, BLACK, WHITE, RICH, and POOR.
That is the “thing” Hillary doesn’t have and this country needs….RIGHT NOW! I am an indenpendant cause I am tired of the party stuff, the red and blue state stuff…I want someone who puts that aside and makes an effort to work together…NOT divide……
Hillary Suppporter…why should Barrack defend anything Hillary says….that is her foot to remove from her mouth. And I do believe it is her husband who is using race to win this race for his wife…..or lose it for her
That….I am sure you cannot dispute….”Jesse Jackson won SC too!”…..so did Edwards and a lot of other people….
most of you are dumb. any candidate that goes into the white house next year will bring change. it is inevitable. the question is, what degree of change? you can say i’m going to change something all day long, but unless you have actions to back up your words, then you have demonstrated NOTHING to me. obama has ZERO substance. he has no record to stand on. i agree with hillary supporter. you can’t go from intern to president without building up some experience along the way. for those who like him so much, maybe hillary will select him for v.p.
Kris-
Other than senate, what office has Hillary held?
Also can you account for the 35 years of experience? I have counted 2! Oddly enough, when Monica’s man became president he had the same amount of experience as Barack….
If you want to truly get a feel about how many white Democrats think about a Black Man for president, go check out some of the post of site such as Washingon Post and New York Times. I have never seen such hatred. They have pretty much dismissed the South Carolina vote as Blacks supporting a Black candidate. This election has brought forward the true face of the Democratic Party. They may say that they are a party of inclusion, but only if we vote for their candidate.
Kris,
Why does Obama has to play second to Hillary? Maybe Obama will select Hillary as his V.P. for her “experience”.
Anyone can claim to be a change agent. In fact any of the three democratic contenders would be a welcome change after the horrors of the Bush administration. But the problems that we face as a nation require radical change, both quantitative and qualitative; they call for a definitive break with the past; for a new type of politics and a new type of politician; for a president who can inspire Americans to get involved, get informed and make their voices heard. One whose word they can trust (call me naive but I’d give a whole lot to be able to believe again).
As for the injection of race into the campaign, the Clintons never, ever do anything by accident. I heard Hillary’s initial comments (not the sanitized version that was replayed later by the media). Her point was that Barack was a great orator, just like Rev. King, but that it took a PRESIDENT (her emphasis, not mine) to sign etc. We all know that to be factually accurate. But LBJ and the legislative branch got on board because JFK had just been assassinated and they were still in shock, and first and foremost because Dr. King and others were shown on television and in the written press being beaten, bitten, firehosed, arrested… They recognized that the mouvement could not be stopped. So minimizing MLK’s role and reducing him to mere orator was a really, really bad move IMHO.
And blaming the media for the Clintons’ woes just seems a little weak, since the media’s sentiments were echoed by Jim Clyburn, Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Tom Daschle, Deval Patrick, Artur Davis……..
In he wake of all this, Obama wins the nod from Ted and Caroline Kennedy (I can’t think of anything that would be a bigger slap to the Clintons), along with Toni Morisson’s endorsement.
We’ll all vote our conscience - that’s what it’s about and when all is said and done we can agree to disagree.
Clinton and Kennedy: one gives you crumbs, the other has your back. Hmmm….
well, KELIN, NEVER did i mention hillary holding an office as the illustration of experience. NEVER.
let’s start with her experience with Marian Wright Edelman, and her work and research with migrant workers. let’s move on to her pro bono work in child advocacy, and then her work as co-founder of the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. How about her work as chair of the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, the ABA Commission on Women, and the Children’s Defense Fund.
And should we just ignore her work associated with her husband’s gubernatorial and presidential tenures? Chairwoman of the Task Force on National Healthcare? Creation of the Office of Violence against Women? State Children’s Health Insurance Program? Should we just dismiss her time meeting with foreign leaders, and being in on important policy meetings?
i also did not bring bill clinton into the argument. ODDLY ENOUGH, an obama supporter did. bill clinton had more experience than obama does at running a government. as being the head of a government. he was Arkansas attorney general for several years, and governor of Arkansas for more than ten years. He was also chair of the National Governor’s Association.
And KELIN, ODDLY ENOUGH, i thought this was 2008, when we were done with Monica and Bill jokes. is it 1999? NO. but i’m going to party like it is when hillary is elected this november!
Kris….So where in all of this is she more qualified to run a country? Bills secretary was in on those same “important” policy meetings…let her run the country then. Kris, I think you know Hillary/Billary just got smashed in SC and it continues today as people jump off the sinking ship. She is a very intelligent politician with ZERO abilities to inspire, lead, and work across party lines. ZERO! Why did her BOY Ted Kennedy just drop her like she did SC. Why did she bolt out of SC? answer those Kris.
So bill can bring up Jesse Jackson, but I can’t bring up MOnica’s man?
For this time and this season of our country…we need a leader not a politician with an husband associated resume. The unfortunate thing…a lot of us were good…with Hill until Monica’s man started talking…you and I both know, if she gets the nomination there is NO WAY IN HELL she could revive this party, unite them, and when I general election. Her and Bill have divided the party and as they normally do stepped on a lot of toes…..
So about that partying you will do…I will send you an invite.
She only wants to tell people what is popular…I will bring our troops home beginning the first 60days…NO U WON’T
The reality is that no one in the Clinton camp presents her voting record or his stances on resolving American issues. And yes, she can not do it alone, yet cant you present a plan at least instead of bashing your opponent’s experience? Always it is about Obama inexperience, yet nevertheless thats take a look at Ms. Clinton stances and positions. Clinton has not signed the tax cut pledge from Americans for Tax Reform, which pledges not to create new taxes or raise existing ones while in office. How can increased taxes be good on the majority of working,middle class ,and upper middle class Americans, who are being crunched to pay healthcare costs and mortages now? Next, Ms Clinton flip flopping and shifting position on the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), the 1996 law signed by her husband, which permits states to ignore same sex marriages or civil unions granted in other states. WHich is it?? In 2001, Sen. Clinton supported reforms backed by the credit card companies making it harder for individuals to file for bankruptcy after Dot.com collapse and 911. Sen. Clinton expressed her continued support of NAFTA and its devastating impact on manufacturing jobs, the enviroment and the global economy. Yet at the same time giving favorable status for Chinese imports, which by the way we having issues with now. Lastly Social Security. What is her plan?? We at sometime must privatize, not just throw money into government spending to band-aid it. Too much money already is being spent on nothing. And who will pay for it??? You the middle and working class tax payer. Hillary Clinton if elected said she will spend 70 billion dollars on what is nothing more than an extension of the Federal Governments rush to bankruptcy or massive tax increases. As for Obama he presents a plan. Ms. Clinton spills great rhetoric and idealism yet what is rhetoric when your paying more for rent and at the pump, ohhh she against drilling for Oil in Alaska as well.
listen all of you hillary suppoters now you talk about exprencie look bavk on when abe lincoln was presdient didvery fresh read your history darling if she is such a good person you dont have to lie say nasty things to win shes a coward if she do win bill will take over your dumb ass probably can run for president and today the kennedy are suppoters of obama the speech they gave the speech they gave chilling caroline has not endorse any one since 1980 tell me whats going on now shes endorse him hey ted kennedy is friends with the clintons but thet see something in him now to everyone who will read this good or bad we vote for who we want and you want dont get mad at obama voters and obama dont get mad had clinton voters just rember GOD has the last word and it is in the bible who is last shall be first and whos is first shall be last last last we dont know the waR IS GOING ON HEALTH CARE SUCKS SO HEY LETS JUST COME TOGETHER WHEN WHAT EVER AND TO THE HILARY SUPPOTERS PARTY IN NOV WHEN OBAMA WIN HA HA HA
KELIN, You don’t know your history. Hillary was much much more than an idle witness during her time in the white house. in fact, Stephanopolous (sp?) wrote about it in his book. they don’t like each other because Hillary was too involved. her experience, along with her plans qualify her to be president. now, whether you like the plans or not, she has presented them. they are there. if Hillary hasn’t inspired YOU, that doesn’t mean that she’s disqualified to be president. howard dean also inspired a lot of people in 2004. but at the end of the day, he didn’t have a lot of substance.
let’s talk about the kennedy endorsements. who the !#$@ is Caroline Kennedy besides a civilian who happened to be the daughter of a former president? And Ted Kennedy? Talk about politicians from a bygone era. Who cares! LBJ (with the prodding of MLK) did more for African Americans than JFK ever would have. Do some historical research. It’s all right there.
Jesse Jackson. I’m assuming you’re talking about Bill Clinton’s mention in relation to JJ winning the primary there when he ran for president? Right. He did. That’s not a low blow. That’s a factual statement. He could’ve mentioned his various illegitimate children sprinkled around the country.
Look KELIN, here’s the long and short of it. If you like Obama, vote for him. I guarantee if he were to get the nomination (which I highly doubt) he will LOSE to whoever the republican candidate is.
Now, on to JOE Domingaux. I guess it takes a record to make a few mistakes. I guess when you learn from those mistakes, you might change your position on something. Right? You’ve never done this? Learned from your mistakes? Hillary used to be a Republican. But in college, she felt that her views were more closely aligned with Democrats. And she organized marches and rallies for African Americans. I guess if you might have looked at a statement she made, or paper she wrote as a Republican, it might look and sound a little different from those made as a Democrat. She discovered her true calling, and found her own voice.
Obama doesn’t really have a record because he hasn’t really done anything. He hasn’t stood up for anything. Made no bold assertions. No daring vision. Just the mantra “change we can believe in”. I can’t. I don’t.
WOW! The exchange presented here is wonderful– educational, fact driven, and inspiring. I would describe this as “The Great Debaters”, and the more I read the more excited I become about our choices of candidates for the presidency, especially Barack Obama. I have always excised my “right” to vote. My “right” to vote is a very special and precious gift because of the many individuals, some who died, for that “right”.
Ghandi said, “It is not the quantity of our work that pleases God, but the quality of our work.”
To Hillary supporter - It is your “right” to vote for whomever you please. Barack Obama is a candidate running for president who happens to be black. Please don’t get caught up in the gender/race divide by making such statements that “you….. someone’s cheerleader and supporting a person because of my race or gender…or you don’t believe ..going from an intern to CEO in 5 seconds.” Have you become informed on the quality of Barack’s blueprint for America. When you were looking at the debates, I wonder if you were actually hearing each candidate or just your candidate of choice,i.e., Hillary. I would encourage you to read Obama’s Bluebook for CHANGE, and hopefully you will become a cheerleader of CHANGE. I would also recommend you read his acceptance speech after winning South Carolina. This country needs a President who can effect CHANGE not only at home but international. Someone who has a vision and blueprint to move our country forward.
To Joe and Kelin: Thank you so very much for your
comments.
Mrs. Powell — Don’t stop talking and encouraging people to vote. God is the creator and giver of everything. Barack Obama’s destiny in God’s hands and what better hands to hold him.
Barbara
Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!
BARBARA GRAY! You left me out of your remarks. I wanted a comment from you too! (Trying to lay on the sarcasm as much as you did. Sarcasm is very effective in keeping conversations healthy, by the way)
Ghandi also said that honest disagreement is often a good sign of progress. So, I’m glad we have a forum in which to voice our opinions. And that’s just what they are. Hillary is no more right or wrong than Obama is. They are just candidates that we like or dislike. I think it’s important to get people to think about who they’re voting for, and not just because they are purple, and it’d be cool to have the first purple president. Same principle can be applied to women.
Ghandi also said “One needs to be slow to form convictions, but once formed they must be defended against the heaviest odds.” And that’s how I feel about my candidate.
kris, i read your comments. you articulate yourself well, yet philosophical statements make good commentary not righteous policy. The issue is that Obama, right or wrong is creating a change in the way people think. Particularly African Americans who have in the past been partitioned by poverty pimps, preachers, and politicians to their bidding. Things will never be the same again. Let the scriptures said when I was a child I thought as a child, when I became a man I put away childish things. Look at this board, when have ever seen African Americans dive this much into the issues as in this day? Change is more than a slogan, its a sentiment and movement that touches every generations soul. Obama has tapped into that fabic, Black, White, Yellow, and Brown. The Clintons did there works in their time, now its time for evolution. That is Obama. If you did the same thing you did 20 years ago, although experience and valiant, would you have grown? America is growing and evolving. You are witnessing it now.
Kris…if you want to believe that Billy Clinton didn’t deliberately use Jesse Jacksons name because of his race then…I have an island I would like to sell you off the coast of Indiana.
PALEEZE…….
Kris you have just further fed the fears of Clinton whitehouse…if Hillary was involved then, Bill will be involved now. So who is running and who are you voting for.
You are right change would come automatically no matter who is in the White House but what type of change are you speaking of…I am speaking of the change where the party divide can be minimized to get things accomplished, there is a transparency where we KNOW what is going on in Washington/White House unlike previous administrations..(the Clintons did not want us to know what was going on for sure)…I am sure you have not read Barack would like to broadcaste ALL negotiations/hearings with drug companies, oil companies etc…so the American people can SEE what is going on …….the type of change that is not leaning toward special interest and the Good Ol’ Boy network but leaning towards what is best for the American people.
Kris answer this what type of White House would Hillary produce? or does she have a vision? Without vision people parrish…hence Bush!
Here is some change for you…there was a Barack Obama rally in Paris, France!
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/group/HollywoodLovesObama
Everyone this is bigger than us and we are in a historical inspirational moment of our lifetime. Don’t let it get away.
just curious KRIS what are HILLRARYS convictions
JOE, my whole point is that “change” means nothing unless you have something to buttress your argument. i am saying that quoting a mantra over and over makes good soundbites for CNN, but it doesn’t make righteous policy. what is the real difference between hillary and obama? compare their issues side by side. THEY ARE NEARLY IDENTICAL. i’m not accusing one candidate of stealing ideas from another. they are essentially the same candidate. it’s just that one of them, admittedly, is more charismatic than the next. all things being equal then, what is the difference? i posit that the difference is experience. experience to enact the issues and enact the change that America wishes to see.
look, i’m a master’s student finishing my thesis on black identity. i also wrote a conference paper on barack obama, and how he uses mediated communication to advance his cause. he uses race as much as anyone to shape his identity. do you think any of this is by accident? obama, like ALL candidates has a hand-picked, cream of the crop advising team that crafts slogans like “change we can believe in.” obama didn’t come up with that. have you heard him in a debate? he’s not as articulate as he is in his crafted, rehearsed speeches. all candidates have their faults.
but it’s not about what the candidates say they can do, but aren’t really sure if they can or not, but more about what they have demonstrated they can do in the past, and an ability to build on that past in order to look toward the future. make a checklist of things you like in a president. if they include, ability to inspire, speaks well, is good-looking, and not has experience, has a record (any record at all), has been fighting for a lifetime of change. if they include more of the former, and none of the latter, then i would question your president choosing ability. and the ability of millions of Americans selecting a president. because, if the sudden interest in presidential politics by a larger portion of the African American population is any indication, they are selecting a presdient based on skin color. but i would ask, what about obama, SPECIFICALLY, has inspired black people? that he’s like a lot of black people in America? because he’s not. he’s biracial. and he didn’t grow up in a poor, urban area or the ghetto. he didn’t barely graduate high school and then go on to work at a minimum wage job. i used to teach high school in an urban area where the population was more than 70% poor, black kids. i know how their lives were. i know what they did when they graduated. if they did. obama did not grow up like that. so WHAT IS IT about obama that inspires so many black people specifically? his policies that will help specifically black people? haven’t heard any of those proposals! what is it? dare i say, race? obama and African Americans are making this just as much about race as the media is.
which leads me to KELIN. of course he mentioned it because of the comparison between the two. (jesse jackson, by the way, was not offended by the comments, and explained them away.) because the media has made this so much about race and gender, bill clinton, i think, threw it back in their face by saying that although a state with a large African American population voted for a black man, TWICE, that it is not an indicator for who will receive the nomination. All facts. However, since i’m not voting for bill (even though the less bright of the posters on here will say something like “I can’t tell who I’m voting for” or “Billary”) I will move on to KELIN’S next point. Candiates have a loooooong history of saying one thing, and then doing another. I fully expect that all of Hillary’s propositions will not come to fruition, and that she will actually abandon some of her platforms. THEY ALL DO. So, this transparency, and everybody come visit the white house and chit chat with obama business is hot air. if he were ever elected president, he would also have to contend with special interest lobbyists. they are not going away anytime soon.
and JAY, visit http://www.hillaryclinton.com to find out her convictions. i am not her spokesperson. just a fan, and supporter.
i think i’ve said enough.
Kris-
In between your bibliography, spellcheck, and footnotes it is time to wake up and smell the coffe…..Race and Gender began at the mouth of Bill Clinton, the guy you are supporting….
“This Kid”
“The parade of African Americans they put up before us as they approached SC”
So why you truly believe in Bill Clinton and hopes he wins, take a step back and listen. The Jesse Jackson comment could have been replaced with a number of people who were not black. So me, Ted Kennedy, Clyburn, and many others are ALLLLL wrong in the way we took it….
Kris I am an advocate of education and commend you on your arguments but academic education mixed with social ignorance is a bad combination. It is ok to say…Bill was wrong, we won’t think you are any less black. It is ok to disagree.
No offense but you do sound like her spokesperson. There is no mentions of her convictions on her web site just things that make minoritys dependent on the Democratic party. You speak of the black vote being a factor. That black voters are choosing Mr. Obama because he’s black. No one has said anything about voters choosing Hillary because she is a woman. Dont see anyone or you addressing that issue. Dont see anyone telling the feminist that they are naive or wrong for making gender the basis or their decesion. If anyone has noticed that all the black woman who are in the senate or congress endorses hillary. Seems no one will speak of that divide but the black folk are getting the most negative attention from their own about Mr. Obama. KRIS you say what you want about Mr. Obamas up bringing. Mr Obama still knows more about being black in USA than she does. Mr. Obama has never said he is presidential candidate that happens to be biracial but a presidential candidate that happens to be BLACK.
True there is nothing on her site about her convictions? I will check Bill’s website and see what his convictions are…..
Kris…on the real…You cannot deny Bill is overshadowing his wife in HER election? seriously, which raises questions about who is running her campaing and who could run the white house.
Here’s the math and some facts on H.Clinton: Hillary has been a member of the Senate 6yrs+2yrs, that =8 years in elected office. Mr.Obama was elected to the Illinois legislature and served 8 years; he was subsequently elected (statewide) as the 2nd Black senator from Illinois, that = 10years in elected office. That equals 8 years for Clinton and 10 years for Obama.
Mrs. Clinton came to New York City as a Carpetbagger. Neither she nor her husband had ever lived in NewYork before and in less than 2 years of living here, she was elected to Sen. Moynihan’s seat upon his retirement and “special blessings.” At the time, people were still enthralled with her husband and bestowed that affection upon her–she rode in on his coattails. So when she speaks of Obama’s experience, please reflect upon that.
Clinton’s time at the Children’s Defense Fund was as a paid employee and did what her job description called for. She was not a founder or an organizer. When she went to Arkansa she worked as a corporate lawyer in the Rose…..law firm. I don’t think they did civil rights law.
Of her 35 years experience,I wish someone would ask her to identify programs/projects that she founded, organized, created and the period of time she spent in such endeavors. She continues to throw her”35 years of experience out there and never attach it to anything real. Her answers are usually in generalities.
She did not hold any official positions in Pres. Clinton’s administration nor was she a policy maker. Perhaps many have forgotten that she was bogged down in scandals when they went to D.C. –Travelgate, missing files, Whitewater, reports of her sexual preference and temper outbursts,etc. I do not doubt that she did some volunteer work here and there but that is not translated into expertise(I volunteer with a social service program in my community but I would never cite that as special experience in social issues).
I live in New York City and Mrs. Clinton has no presence in the Harlem community until there is an election and then she identifies with those old out of touch detached politicians and preachers.
Many black women say they are voting for her because she is a woman. Well a reminder is in order,white women enjoy the same access in this world as do their men. Some white women may not get the job they want, but they are not oppresed as are black women. When did white women fight exclusively for Black women’s issues. I don’t recall Hillary supporting Lani Guinier’s position. When there was a little heat at her appointment hearing, Pres. Clinton dropped her like a hot rock. Never a murmur from Hillary. This brilliant Harvard Law professor was supposed to be their friend and she was shafted.
Ms. Hillary supporters, you should be more critical in your thinking than voting for her because she is a woman–black women are not accorded the same rights as white women in this society yet. Maybe one day they will.
Katie-
I couldn’t agree with your more, as I have read before if a spouse is able to count their work history on yours…..my wife wasted her time getting a masters and our next president is Laura Bush.
Hillary keeps spewing this 35 years of experience yet she has accomplished very little as it relates to what she wants to do as president…
Now todays news….as we know the Clintons are a “love em’ and leave em’” type of people…They loved SC until they realized their antics caught up with them….so they left…EARLY I might ad, without a thank you or bill money on the nightstand….
Once again they have struck….Thanking the wonderful people of FLorida for…ummmm…well…nothing. Oh wait…A boost of my confidence as she stated. Which goes to show you Billary is a very weak weak person. The catch is….why no victory party in Michigan…don’t you deserve some love? Michigan just tell SC to scoot over cause Billary has did you too…..Florida don’t drink the kool aid people once you realize these delegates won’t count……there will be a note on the nightstand for you too….
This is what they do….
kris, i really don’t get your arguement about what it means to be black in this country. i know a lot of people(me included) have been accused of being white because we got good grades in school and spoke the king’s english. but we all grew up in the hood. being poor and growing up in the hood should not define how black you are even if you are biracial. and quit buying the media’s bs (especially bill’s) about blacks voting for other blacks. we are not from some monolithic community that all think alike hence reading the of the comments made. if you remember a while ago, most blacks didn’t know anything about obama and were gonna go with hillary simply because we somehow indirectly were gonna vote bill back in. and it’s rather insulting and condescending for the media to believe that we’re that dumb to vote based on race. no one is saying anything about hillary courting women and running as a woman candidate, but the minute obama receives some support from the black community, all of a sudden, he’s the “black candidate”.
if u wanna know his message it’s simply this, let’s all work together and get the american people involved in the process to achieve a common goal. let’s let the trajectory be different for the country and stop fighting the same battles. let’s inspire the american people by engaging them and tapping into their spirit through sacrifice and working together. he gets deep into it, but i’d rather you look at his website.
..one more thing, anybody can be a manager(somethin i learned while in the service) but not everybody can lead. a true leader motivates and influences his/her people by tapping into their spirit to get the job done right. a laeder works with everyone, not just people that he/she likes. hillary, i’m a afraid is a manager. sure she can do the job, but she’s not a visionary and you and i both know that this will be a problem for her. you can go ahead and want someone to manage you and get treated like an employee. be my guest. but i feel like being inspired to reach for somethin bigger than me.
Twisting words in order to assassinate the opponent’s character by claiming that their racists is reprehensible and will only cause a backlash. Mentioning Jesse Jackson’s name is not a racial slur. Its one thing to look back to the days of MLK, but it’s another to turn your back on those who stood with him. It’s okay to respect those who fell down, so that you can stand up.
I’m not sure how much weight the Kennedy’s endorsement will have in MA. We stood up for the “hope and together we can speech” and now people are starting to ask why? I’ll have to wait a couple of years before I start to question it, because I campaigned so hard for that theme.
Hillary Supporter…..
If you can ask this simple question? Why use Jesse Jackson’s name and not John Edwards or any other white male who won SC? Please Please answer this question?
or Just like Bill, continue to ignore it?
Also read the previous post from lilbaby about what real leadership is…..PEOPLE we have read this story before with the Clintons…it will be nothing new….The SAME old politics.
NOW IT GETS INTERESTING. Edwards is now Out the race. So where are these delegates going. Obama at this time must continue to persue his message for Change and Moderate message. I think with Edwards blue colar, union, and southern lower income voters it may be a swing towards Obama via he doenst endorse Clinton, yet In The South you Must talk about Economic resurgence. For those of you from Miami, New Orleans,Houston, Atlanta,Memphis,Virgina, the Carolinas,etc we all know that lower socialeconomics is not defined by color so much down here any more yet by cash money recirculation into the housing districts. Plenty of poor black, white, and brown people in these places live adjacent to some of the most affluent places in the country. Obama must continue to speak on creating home ownership via home renting (housing developments) that have plagued the South and Entire country for years. Creating lower captial taxes for companies, particularly these huge plant and factories in the Energy and Manufactoring sectors, to generate more higher substainable jobs. He must not get pulled into arguements that has bogged Ms. Clinton, and her counterparts at the Congressional Black Caucus, that stress mainly social hand-outs. These folks want to live in thoses areas too that are experiencing record growth. Also he Must stress his devotion to Faith, not being overboard yet in his undertone. Edwards voters are still mostly Southerners, that is THE BIBLE BELT. Black, White, and Brown are very much Christian conservatives to an extent. Overall, now the real games begin. Obama will raise the stakes now. I like his chances.
Joe…good point the stakes are raised and I cannot remember at time in primaries like this. The DEBATE will be “off the chain” ….I have to believe given Edwards stance as hillary as the status quo, he surely cannot endorse her but stranger things have happened. I do believe there is a place for Edwards in Obama’s campaign.
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KELIN, why do you insist on being childish? I am not supporting bill clinton. i am supporting hillary. i would propose that ted “fat, drunken, womanizer” kennedy is not the best spokesperson for positive change in america. and yet, he’s supporting obama. is that guilt by association? how about his endorsement by john “couldn’t beat BUSH in 2004″ kerry. he’s a flip-flopper. he is. but, by endorsing obama, does that make obama a flip-flopper? why are you supporting a flip-flopper KELIN? do you see how childish that is? SO WHAT if bill said some bonehead things!? i don’t care. bill is a red herring. why don’t you take a cue from your superhero obama and start talking about the real issues?
JAY, the following is verbatim from my previous entry on Jan. 28:
I think it’s important to get people to think about who they’re voting for, and not just because they are purple, and it’d be cool to have the first purple president. Same principle can be applied to women.
So, I didn’t address women voting for hillary just because she’s a woman? Right. AGAIN, my whole point (I can’t believe how much I have to repeat myself on here) is that people should vote for who they believe is the best candidate, and not for a candidate because they happen to be the same color or sex. Flava Flav knows more about being black in america than hillary, but he is not the best person to be president. someone please answer, WHAT SPECIFICALLY (underlined) ABOUT OBAMA AND HIS POLICIES HAS INSPIRED BLACK PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT ANY OTHER CANDIDATE IN EITHER PARTY HAS NOT? I don’t want to hear why hillary hasn’t inspired you (and seemingly thousands of african americans). but why has obama?
KATIE, you sound like you are bitter about something. you don’t like hillary? great. don’t vote for her.
LILBABY26, i am not saying that to carry your “black card” you have to grow up poor in the ghetto. that was not my point at all. my point was that generally, people vote for candidates whose policies they agree with. who are like them. who have had similar experiences that they have. MOST black people have not had the kind of experience that obama has been privileged to enjoy. so, what makes him so popular (all of a sudden) in the black community? because as someone said earlier in this blog he knows more about being black in america than hillary does? that seems like a strong vote of confidence for his race. i don’t know? that’s just me. as for being an inspirational leader, i can’t deny obama is charismatic. but the manager who inspires but is weak on substance leads us astray.
JOE, i think most of edwards’ supporters will back obama. however, i think in the states that hillary will win, edwards’ relatively low number of supporters won’t matter for obama. i think win she wins, it will be by a significant lead. i think the same could be applied for obama. obama does well amongst lower income individuals, but they do not vote in primaries overwhelmingly. hillary has some good union support too, so, yes, it will be interesting.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com
Wow…Kris…”so what if bill said some bonehead things” interesting. I am sure you feel the same way about Uncle Bob Johnson too. Kris enjoy Billary and your undying support of them, there ways….and hey so what if Bill cheated on his wife, was impeached, etc etc…it is all about the win. So what if Hill used her good judgement and inhaled a lie and sent our troops to war. Who needs sound judgement wihtoug apology. Don’t fool yourself, YOU bought up what Hill did during Bill’s campaign, go back and read your stuff …….now who is “flip flopping”
KELIN, bill is not hillary and doesn’t speak for her. just in the same way that ted kennedy isn’t obama’s mouthpiece. i am surprised by how much obama embraces these washington insiders’ endorsements. and obama did do illegal hard drugs. so what? i don’t care. and so what if bob johnson brought his past drug use up? when did we become so easily offended and hyper-sensitive? who cares? i don’t. i care about real issues.
i’m not talking about war, and impeachment, and cheating on spouses. you talk about forgetting the past and looking toward the future, and yet you constantly bring up issues more than a decade old. i’m done responding to you because you’re foolish, KELIN.
And this folks is part of our current generation…the so what generation…
Bill doesn’t speak for Hillary…have you been watching an Iraqi election or something?
Krisllary just as your adopted family the Clinton’s, you will believe, say, and do anything to accomplish nothing. Your points on this hold issue for the most part have been so hollow, It doesn’t surprise me you support THEM.
I will sell you some land off the coast of Iowa soon. It is time to wake up and see the realities of the world YOU should be living in. Call me foolish is fine but don’t call me blind with a “so what” and “hyper sensitive” argument. I am sure you say the same thing about using the N-word against African Americans…cause so what, that word means a term of endearment and my white friends call me that all the time….
Kris…..wake up! You may be done responding, but you are not done reading!
kris, answer this,..y does obama have to work tens times as hard to get the black vote than hillary? if you remember just a month ago(cuz it seems like america as a very short attention span), clinton was leading obama by double digits and black people in this country wasn’t sure if he was electable( waiting on the white man to validate their vote, again that slave mentality) or “black enough”. but those folks were sure gonna vote for hillary due to name recognition and indirectly voting bill back in. she was the inevitable candidate. the reason y blacks are overwhelmingly voting obama is mostly because we had to look at what the clintons have REALLY done for us. remember she had a lock on the black vote? that this was suppose to be an easy run because she was following the polls but didn’t think for one minute that she was gonna get embarassed like she did in iowa. and i do agree that the media is biased when it comes to preferring obama, but i think that’s because he brought down that sense of inevitability with her and actually turned it into a race. plus actions by her husband and other associates speaking in racial “codes” that they knew was gonna piss some people off to divide the black vote. but hey, the latino vote is on the table and there’s more of them than us so she had to do what she had to do right? obama certainly isn’t a manager and the reason y he inspires people is because he was in the trenches as a community organizer when he could have been making a lot of money in corporate law. he had to work from the ground up to build his name to where even white folks like him. his message is basically somethin that reagan did(and he was 100% right about the reagan comment) that he changed the trajectory of the nation to push forth an agenda. people actually beleived in their goverment(not all of us cuz i do remember eatin govt’ cheese and that nasty wic peanut butter) hence the phrase “it’s morning in america!” i know exactly how this thing is gonna play out if he loses and she gets the nomination. i would explain my theory further, but that will be on the next post..
also, the blog should be intended to welcome everyone’s point of view even if it’s different from yours. i certainly welcome anyone to challenge my argument without resorting to any personal attacks
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What we see is an integration of a New Geneneration Movement Obama is creating. Its is crossing all ethnic and economic lines. The national polls will tell you that Hillary is still comfortably outfront with the nationwide delegate count projection. What they dont tell you is that many of the Super Delegates, those Delegates like Ted Kennedy, who can vote anyway they choose regardless of what their respective States have voted, are switching steadily to Obama. Also the strong surge in Latino, African American, and yes 20-35 yr old White Professional Females for Barack is giving him the surge when he needs it most. Look out, this is going to be interesting. You heard it here.
And to just to show its not just poor black voters chiming in, overall Barack Obama raised $32 million in the month of January alone for his presidential bid, CNN’s Candy Crowley confirms.
That total roughly equals his previous best three-month fundraising haul.A campaign source also tells CNN the Illinois senator received contributions from 170,000 new donors in January.
I was one of those donors…..I continuue to see polls that don’t factor in superdelegates at all….and I see one poll say one thing and another saying something else….
This debate is important for them both and I hope Barack….
* Pounds the past vs future
* Hits the issues like economy, immigration, and his electibility very strong
* Finally I hope he draws a strong difference him running against McCain vs Hillary.
I don’t need any mudslinging just flex your muscles…
On a side note, I think this blog is great and even if we disagree. There are some Hillary supporters who have made some strong cases for Hillary and not so much putting down another.
Thats what black folks should be able to do…”disagree without being disagreeable” a barack quote…
obama just go and woup their buttz when u do wake me up cause im tired of all this bull crap
The clinton machine is now broken and there are no parts to fix it. It is obsolete and left to the past to rust away and disintegrate, like so many other old machines. Change is on the horizon and it’s name is “Obama”. I VOTE for Change!
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