The Big Three Want Big Bucks from Congress

December 3rd, 2008

By Pamela Gentry, Senior Political Producer

Dec. 3, 2008 – The plight of the U.S. automakers could be left to Congress.  Not the best scenario for the American ideals of free enterprise and capitalism, but the big three automakers are now in the need of a bailout, which appears to be the only option for survival.

But a bailout won’t be easy.  President Bush and Democratic Party leaders are in a stalemate over what should be done.  Republicans believe the automakers should file bankruptcy and reorganize, while Democrats think tax dollars can should only be used as bridge loans while companies reorganize under bankruptcy laws, cut costs and re-tool plants to build more fuel-efficient cars.

But lofty ideals require time the automakers don’t have.

One Black lawmaker from the Motor City, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), weighed in following the presentations of options by the automakers that appeared to be filled with gloom and doom.

Conyers wants the new administration to elevate United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger into the position of “auto czar.”   

“Over the last month, there has been much discussion about the need for a strong central figure to oversee the dramatic changes being undertaken by the auto industry.  It is my belief that a Cabinet-level ‘auto czar’ would provide this type of leadership and help President Obama successfully coordinate his administration’s efforts on behalf of the industry,” Conyers said.

I’m not sure a czar is what’s needed, but it’s clear the industry needs some un-divided attention to get back in gear. As for czars, they usually make headlines, and not policy, so how do they really help?

“If the Congress and auto industry strike a ‘grand bargain’ aimed at improving the industry’s efficiency and innovative capacity, America’s public and private sectors will have to work together on a variety of fronts.  The complexity inherent in reforming firms with extensive and interconnected labor, legal, and financial agreements will most certainly be daunting,” Conyers contends.

Speaker of the House Rep. Nancy Pelosi agrees with the severity of the issues facing the industry, but she told reporters on Tuesday, “I think it’s pretty clear that bankruptcy is not an option,”  and that she may call for another lame-duck session to deal with the crisis.

 “I believe that an intervention will happen, either legislatively or by the administration,” Pelosi said.

The automakers made their case to Congress while in Washington.  General Motors Corp. asked for $18 billion along with $12 billion in loans and a $6 billion line of credit.  Chrysler asked for $7 billion before the end of 2008 and Ford Motor Company  requested a  $9 billion line of credit.

Michigan Sen. Carl Levin (D)  said he thinks things can come together to get a deal on paper for the automakers.  “If this thing is going to happen next week, it’s going to happen with the support and assistance of the current president and the president-elect,” Levin said.

With the number of jobs on the line throughout the United States and the number of small businesses depending on the successes of the automotive industry, Congress will have to do something.  We’ll just have to wait and see what they decide to do.

Do you think tax dollars should be used to help the struggling automakers? 

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Mike Harmon said on December 3rd, 2008

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jfffnn said on December 3rd, 2008

Letting the auomakers go to hell in a handbasket will have a ripple effect that will cause a depression.I don’t think anybody is for a bailout but it is good for the entire country if they get the help they need.

Andrew Augustin said on December 3rd, 2008

Look, this automotive industry is getting out of hand. The crisis they’re going through is good for them. There are so many americans out there without transportation. Why, its either because the sales person throw’s this card in the buyers face “oh, i’m sorry you have bad credit, or better yet you don’t have any credit.” This right here is a good one, “well since you don’t have good credit or any credit, if you really want to purchase this vehicle you need a really strong co-signer.” I mean c’mon now. There are families out there who have 3 or more kids who need transportation to bring their kids to school. I look at it like this if you have a job, you have a ride. These dealers should be willing to work with americans and give them a payment that they can make every month according to how much they make at work. Its bad enough that the economy is going through a crisis of so many americans being un-employeed. This should be the best way for a buyer to purchase an automobile. First, give them a payment according to how much they make a month (including insurance). Second, if the purchaser doesn’t have a job, then tell them to put a down payment of @ least $1,000 but if they have more to put down then that’s even better. Those two reasons right there should be eligible for us americans, especially for those who are un-employeed. I can’t wait until this thursday to hear what their plan is to get this bailout. And if its not good enough then the hole that they’re in is going to get deeper and deeper.

jfffnn said on December 3rd, 2008

I’m too many things at the same time,automakers it should read.

jacki lane said on December 3rd, 2008

yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!

Joi said on December 3rd, 2008

I don’t think they should bail them out. They put themselves in this situation over 10 years ago. When they should have been making automobiles that require less gas mileage. Now everyone is buying foreign cars b/c they save on gas and now the BIG 3 are going down. If they bail them out they will continue to make cars that are gas gussers & years from now they will be asking for another bail out. They should give them enough money to have some type of new platform that will make them build cars that save gas & money for everyone.

Todd said on December 3rd, 2008

Mitt Romney said it best when he stated that they need to file bankrupcy a restructure their business. Currently, they cannot compete with the likes of Toyota. They should break the Unions and lower their COB.

david said on December 4th, 2008

NO.

david said on December 4th, 2008

No,no ,no.

david said on December 4th, 2008

No, no ,no, no,no.

david said on December 4th, 2008

They got them selfs init lot them get there selfs out of it.

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Troy said on December 4th, 2008

Has anyone ever read Atlas Shrugged? The story line is starting to play out in all this. If they keep propping up these companies that need to die you will see something far worse than a depression.

Truth said on December 4th, 2008

Well you all have to look at it very closely! “IF” they do not bail out the automakers than we all shuld get ready for a depression. Have you all (who said no on the bail out) know how much they are worth. Millions of people work for automakers MILLIONS not thousands and factually we (America) can’t afford to lose over 25 million jobs. The overnment has to bail EVERYONE out due to the fact that they bailed numerous other company’s in the past months. Plus you have to look at what they (the media) are not telling you. Don’t read this article and think it is all true or look at CNN or Fox and base you predictions on that. No one other that the Senate, President, and pres-elect and his team knows what is going on. Bottom line is that they are going to have to bail them out. PLUS this is also a plot of the Bush administration and republicans to make Pres-elect Obama look bad. They all know what he is going to do so they (Bush administration and republicans) lowered gas UNTIL Obama gets in office Jan 20, 2009. After he gets in office watch gas prices increase and the far right to say at the end of the quarter how bad he is running our country BUT I believe Obama (with the team he has) is ready for any type of set-up the far right throws at him and his team!
GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!

truth said on December 4th, 2008

And like I said eight months ago and I will say it again money will be turned into credits very soon (If we don’t get “new money”) due to the bailouts. Watch

olounwa said on December 4th, 2008

its between the devil and the deep blue sea.. there is no choice in the matter, let them drown then an entire economy will go down the black hole with them.. this is not the time to be talking of letting the banks and the car industries sink by themselves… because everyone will sink with them..

olounwa said on December 4th, 2008

obama hits the ground running and i think is more than a match for the far right who just had the wind taken out of them .!! they will be back afterall, its a 52% to 46% voter turnout… so its not that they dont have a substantial platform to work with … 46% of americans are still stupid..expect sarah palin to be their nominee come 2012.. and if obama doesnt get to grips with the economy by then, expect them to come back to wreck even more havoc than before…

Bro.Jay said on December 4th, 2008

A bailout should not be permitted without a legitimate plan.
We need to see projections and legitimate strategies of how the bailout will work. If the banks are refusing to bail you out why should the tax payers, we can’t afford to just give the auto’s companies billions of dollar’s.
We should also revisit NAFTA ,your asking american’s to bail you out,
but yet, you sold out the american auto workers and you gave away people jobs who’s been working 25 to 35 years to Mexico and Canada.
I know President Obama will look into restructuring NAFTA, he mention
he would. We need also to look into the our trade situation with Japan,
Japan is allowed to sell all their automobiles in America but were
not allow to sell our auto’s to them that’s crazy….
Olouwana (aka) sha- nea- nea why do you keep pretending your from
another country and why do you involve yourself so deeply in our culture, if
you were from another country? Your comments are getting old with the
same old retoric, but I understand you want some attention and you want
to feel important ,because apparently you don’t get it from home, but you really do need to get a life , black lady from America& #8230;&# 8230; 230;R 30;̷ 0;.

mad max said on December 4th, 2008

olounwa is a black lady???

WTF&# 8230;I thought olounwa was that OLD drunk african dude chillin down at Smitty’s bar every day on a cheap laptop drinkin crown royal.

Bro. Jay said on December 4th, 2008

mad max;
That’s to funny you got me cracking up, I never thought about that.
hahahahah lololohaha ….

Alex said on December 4th, 2008

I want to see the d.a.m.n congress under oath for bankrupting social security and mismanaging out tax dollars.

Truth said on December 4th, 2008

If I am right with the team Obama has he should get this economy turned around by the end of next year. BUT they can’t clash and they have to understand that Obama is the decision maker in which I am aware that they all know that.

Alex said on December 5th, 2008

Obama isn’t getting this economy turned around.
I’m sorry. Nothing I have seen of him gives me confidents that he knows what to do. Cases in point, when asked about taxing the rich people, el presidente-elect stuttered and dodge the question by reciting a campaign flyer.
He’s basically the spokesman for the Democratic Party and the Clintons will run the show.

jfffnn said on December 5th, 2008

Alex
Bush is still President,it’s still his watch so why isn’t he turning the economy around ? Oh that’s right,he only bails out the fat cats on wall street.
It would be a economic disaster for the entire nation if congress does not come to the rescue of the big three automakers.The ripple effects of letting them go under will be a depression. Seems that some people don’t understand
that many, many types of companies are very inter-connected that millions of people will be out of work.

truth said on December 6th, 2008

Sorry Alex…. your wrong. I don’t think you’re aware of the power, experiance, ingenuity, and well respect cabnet in the history. You really need to d your research on his cabinet and look at their record. With the team he has he can get this economy turned around. Remember he is NOT president of the United States yet. What do you want him to do? He is doing everything he can and the far right are setting Obama up with decreasing gas until he takes office and is going to increase it when he takes office to make him look bad! You can’t judge a book by its cover and you have to form your own opinion by looking at what the media is not telling you.

truth said on December 6th, 2008

One more point Alex. It would be STUPID of Obama to give his tax plans right now he’s not in office yet wait a few more weeks until he is president please. He’s a VERY clever individual that knows how to communicate well and give answers that doesn’t give his plans away

Alex said on December 8th, 2008

hello!

Psychic Star said on December 8th, 2008

I have traveled to Europe and Brazil for the last 15 years. I was always surprised to see the Ford, and GM cars there using alternative fuel sources. The GM and Ford cars ran on Ethanol, natural gas and the type of gas we use here in the USA. Brazil has been using alternative fuel in these cars for over 30 years. The Big three have no one to blame but themselves. They have been in bed with the oil companies for so long that they did not take care of business here at home and now the bottom is dropping out from under them because they failed to prepare for the current economic crisis.

We should not bail them out. I feel that they need to file bankrupcy, restructure and start over fresh building alternative fuel cars. If they want to borrow money, they should borrow it from the oil companies who have made record profits on our backs. Make them pay for their collective greed, not us!

Bro.Jay said on December 9th, 2008

Hear, Hear, Psychic Star I agree with you, you make a good point….

jfffnn said on December 9th, 2008

It appears that the big three are not the only ones who want big loot. Ill. Gov. Rod Blagojevich has been accused and arrested by the F.B.I. for trying too sell President Elect Obama’s senate seat.

Greg Jones said on December 10th, 2008

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truth said on December 10th, 2008

Psychic Star you make a good point and that’s why you see more individuals with a lot of income (million and biliionares) moving out the U.S. to the new island that was built and to numerous other countries. BUT we have NO choice BUT to bail out the auto industry. YES they did it to themselves everyone knows that (so did those other company’s they bailed out) but do you want this country to go in a depression such as the 1930’s? I don’t know about all of you but I don’t. Not now. We all got to hope for the best the auto industry pays the salary of over 30 million U.S. citizens and losing that many jobs wouldn’t be good… I just hope and pray that it doesn’t hunt us in the long run because if it does it will be WORSE than the depression of the 1930’s. Blame Bush because if you bail one company out you got to bail them all out.

Patrick N. Washington said on December 11th, 2008

We do not need to be giving all this money to an industry that will not be able to make it anyways. The auto bailout is prolonging the inevitable.

There is not enough money out there to support everyboyd that comes to DC for a bailout. Our national debt is running out of control already.

Let those three companies fail and the other auto companies will definitely pick up where they left off. Seriously though, it may hurt Detroit but for those cities that have Toyota plants, Kia plants, and other auto plants, failure of the Big 3 will benefit them.

jfffnn said on December 12th, 2008

Patrick
letting the big 3 too fail will hurt more cities than Detroit. It seems that you are not aware of the fact that hundreds of firms are involved in the manufactoring of a car. As far as those non union foriegn owned automakers in the south,thats what the republicans want,it’s a union busting tactic. Infact the GOP killed the auto bailout bill because they wanted the average working man too give up some wages.No wonder the republicans took a ass wipping on Nov. 4.

seschris said on December 12th, 2008

jfffnn,

I agree with you. A lot of other companies depend on those big auto companies for their livelihood and there would be a serious negative financial ripple effect felt in those communities. However, I also don’t like the “bail out industry” mentality that has developed here lately.

Patrick N. Washingt on,

Welco me back. I missed your comments. I don’t always agree with you but I do like reading your view points. You stimulate intelligent debate and challenge minds. Plus you piss off certain folks. lol

jfffnn said on December 12th, 2008

seschris
It’s obvious that people that are against saving those companies have not thought the situation thru enough too see the benefits of a “bailout” plan.I think it’s their ideology that prevents them from supporting a plan.Even GWB sees the pragmatism and the poltical wisdom of saving these companies.It seems th republicans have shot themselves in the foot again,they help fat cats on Wall street but the average laborer can go to hell as far as they(gop} is cocerned.

truth said on December 15th, 2008

Patrick
To tell you the truth that can’y happen. First of all you don’t want foreign countries to run too many businesses here in the U.S. Why well let’s just say we don’t have a lot of financial support right now and by letting more foreign businesses in can be bad due to the fact that countries take over other countries by taking over their financial system not by war. Second I have been saying this for almost a year the ONLY reasin the bill is being passed down to us is because if this county doesn’t ge new money soon monry will be turned into credits. Finally the republicans are trying to set Obaa up to fail by misleading us with numerous stories and you have to look around that and listen to wa=hat they are not telling you. It seems like now-a-days when the media reports something they get the reports by word of mouth and have no documentation or evidence to prove what they are reporting UNLESS they have evidence I don’t believe a WORD that comes out their mouth!

olounwa said on December 15th, 2008

Its disgraceful the way bush is pushing thru bills just to spite obama and the new administration and to frustrate them.. the litany of ecologically disasterous bills allowing drilling in previously no go zones, allowing people to carry guns in national parks, etc etc.. knowning fullly well that it will take ages to reverse all this stuff and tie obama’s hands from day one.. these people are evil these republican devils.. ideology is what matters to them not their so called patriotism.. then of course they bail out their wall street buddies and their car czars and leave the small business man high and dry.. those shoes didnt hit their target.. damn those iraqi’s .!!!

olounwa said on December 15th, 2008

Its disgraceful the way bush is pushing thru bills just to spite obama and the new administration and to frustrate them.. the litany of ecologically disasterous bills allowing drilling in previously no go zones, allowing people to carry guns in national parks, etc etc.. knowning fullly well that it will take ages to reverse all this stuff and tie obama’s hands from day one.. these people are evil these republican devils.. ideology is what matters to them not their so called patriotism.. then of course they bail out their wall street buddies and their car czars and leave the small business man high and dry.. those shoes didnt hit their target.. damn those iraqi’s cant even get that right..

Truth said on December 15th, 2008

olounwa
Don’t worry Obama’s team knows what up with the lame-duck administration! I believe they are trutly prepared for what Bush and his buddies are trying to do! I have faith in Obama we just have to pray wish for the best!

LYNN said on December 17th, 2008

PAMELA….ARE YOU STILL WORKING?..HAVING A BABY?..HAVE TAKEN SOMETIME OFF?.. NEED A NEW INTEREST?.. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ?…WE NEED NEW TOPICS TO TALK ABOUT.. YOUR KIND OF CUTE ALSO.

seschris said on December 21st, 2008

LYNN,

I’ve been wondering the same thing since there have been no new political stories in a while. Maybe she’s off for an extended holiday.

jfffnn said on December 22nd, 2008

Olounwa
How is Bush pushing bills when Congress is in recess until January ? Infact I have not heard of any executive orders from Bush,which will be overturned when Obama takes office.What bills are you mentioning ?

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Bama said on December 30th, 2008

Change for the big 3 will out come from a bailout, it will only come from a restructure. Let the big three file and restructure, if not we are throwing money away. Why change when the government will bail your out, CEOs clearing millions will not stop. Change must be forced on the big 3 to restructure.

Bama said on January 17th, 2009

Does BET have only one news person. Its been over a month, what are you waiting for Obama to go to the bathroom so you can write about it.

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