Guy Fisher: Not Just Another Harlem Kingpin

December 3rd, 2008

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Guy Fisher was the first Black man to own Harlem’s Apollo Theater, a proud day in Black history. Except that Fisher brought that historic showcase for Black talent using money generated by sales of thousands of kilos of heroin. Fisher had been the protege of the legendary Nicky Barnes. Later Barnes’ testimony would send Fisher to prison for the rest of his life. Fisher is the third Harlem kingpin to appear on “American Gangster” and he’s just as compelling as Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas.

The show’s producer Diane Paragas was surprised at the duality of Fisher’s life.

“When we first heard that Florence Fisher, Guy’s sister, agreed to let us tell the official Guy Fisher story, we didn’t really know what to expect,” she said. “All we knew was that he was the protege of Nicky Barnes and that he was the first Black owner of the Apollo.  At first
Florence and Guy’s associates who we interviewed did not even want to mention Nicky’s name and had obvious feelings of betrayal and contempt for the man that put their beloved Guy in prison.  They spoke easily about Guy’s accomplishments in prison, getting his PHD writing books, teaching classes and his gentlemanly compassionate demeanor. When we interviewed DEA agents and prosecutors, they painted a very different picture of a ruthless ambitious killer, whose charm and intellect allowed him to get rid of the powerful Nicky and take over his empire.

“As a producer, it was hard to tell which of these two sides was the real Guy Fisher.  The love that his friends, associates and family feel for him is real, and they speak of him as if he has reached some zen-like status in their eyes. In many ways, I found him to be a more interesting and complicated character than his counterpart Nicky Barnes because he appears to be a thinking man, a gentleman not a thug as one of his friends put it.  In the end, when we asked Guy about his feelings about Nicky, he said that he had made peace with it. The tragedy of the Guy Fisher story is that I believe that he really was trying to go legitimate when he purchased the Apollo.  I don’t know if he would have achieved it or his gangster life would have and probably should have caught up with him, but I was impressed that he managed to make a second life from behind bars and his life is testimony to the fact that you can still achieve and change after your sins.”

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Peggy said on December 4th, 2008

He is indeed a good hearted man. Whom I will always and forever love.

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JR said on December 4th, 2008

I’m waching this right now…I don’t know about this one. Yes it was very small of Nikki Barnes to seek revenge the way he did. But everybody’s talking about ‘rats’ and ’snitching’ and wonder why crimes are so rampant and unsolved in particular communities. I’m not saying that police are quick to care about solving the crimes either but still. Don’t they realize that they condone violence by this whole ’snithcin’ idea? It is so strange that they would expect criminals to have ethics. There is no such thing as ‘criminal ethic’. That is an oxymoron and that makes this ‘no snitching’ illogical. I’m glad that Fisher is reformed and got his degress. I think that’s great.

Mildred Myles said on December 5th, 2008

I watched the show tonight on Guy Fisher and I have to say it was great. It’s about time that we heard his side of what was going on because in the past all we had was Nicky Barnes account.

I grew up with Guy Fisher and his family. His sister Vicki was my best friend. It was the Fishers, Myles and the Williams family. We did everything together. So watching this show brought back alot of memories. I cried when they showed the pictures of his Mom and they showed a picture of him with his sister Vicki. I clapped when they said Dr. Guy Fisher. How proud I am of him. I think it’s time that the system set him free. I think that he served his time and he is not a threat to society. His coming out of jail would benefit the young black men of today. What a great influence he would be for our young black men. It’s not far that Nicky Barnes is in protective custody somewhere, working and doing his thing and Guy is still in jaill. If he was a snitch like Nicky Barnes he would be free. But the Guy I know would never do that. We should not judge him now on what he did and why he went to jail. He should be judged on what he is like now and set my brother free.

Mildred Myles
His sister forever

Kamie said on December 5th, 2008

i watched the show n they mentioned books that Guy FISHER WROTE WHILE IN PRISON, BUT i cant remebr the names?

Audrey said on December 5th, 2008

First lets Thank Mark_____for his wonderful performance he put on with this show -this had to be the BEST ever-Guy Fisher has been love by everyone in Harlem for many years as we watch the show all 31 of us -between the crying and talking we will have to watch it all over to really see-God has said it time for him to come home NOW this show has prove it for all of us-we will stand together in pray for this day to see Guy Fisher come HOME

Angie said on December 5th, 2008

I think this man is a good man. I know how it feel to try to feed your self and others. I think it was wrong for barnes to do what he did. but sooner or later guy was going to get caught. for he to write books and novels, not oly that but went to college and got his PHD what prisoner you know took the time out to do that? I think it great he acheived something like that. I think he did his time and leard his lesson I feel in a way he should be given a scond chance or a chance to be heard!!!!

Angie said on December 5th, 2008

I think this man is a good man. I know how it feel to try to feed your self and others. I think it was wrong for barnes to do what he did. but sooner or later guy was going to get caught. for him to write books and novels, not olny that but went to college and got his PHD what prisoner you know took the time out to do that? I think it great he acheived something like that. I think he did his time and leard his lesson I feel in a way he should be given a scond chance or a chance to be heard!!!!

kevin said on December 7th, 2008

I would like to purchase some of this man’s books. can someone please email me with information on how to order.

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Natika said on December 7th, 2008

First & foremost, Guy Fisher is a great man in my eyes, granted he sold drugs & other crimes, he did the only thing that black could do back in those days to put food on the table. He was a man of principal and morals…not really depicted in the story. He was a man of heart, but for a man of his stature to be confined for the remainder of his life and accomplish the things he has is a blessing in its self. Nicky Barnes turned states evidence because he was jealous of Guy not because of him sleeping with his women…it was pure jealousy of the man, just like how was of Frank Lucas, but for this man to snitch and get out of jail is baffling too me…what has Barnes ever done in jail or out of jail to help his community, nothing! Then for him to write a book as a slap in the face of Guy just goes to show how pathetic he really is and he will never amount to Guy!
Nicky u thought u could get an uproar of Guy but he has and will always have class, the class you never had or will get and u are mad that he his more loved than u have ever been then and now! NICKY BARNES, ” YOU CAN PAY FOR SCHOOL BUT U CAN’T CLASS”!

Janice said on December 7th, 2008

It’s about time that a show featured an African American man that turned his life from negative to positive. But it does seem the penal system is into reform for “us”. I guess they don’t really care about “rehabilitation”. I believe there should be a movement towards freeing Dr. Fisher. The “DR.” has much to offer young people that think street life is the way to go. His presence (and or return back to society) would be far more effective as a deterent to young up and coming criminals than being locked away in prison. Therefore, I pray for his speedy release….In the mighty name of Jesus…May God continue to bless Dr. Fisher
JBBest, MPA

J. Scott said on December 8th, 2008

During the 1970’s, Guy Fisher was a hero to many young brothers. He like many were a victim of circumstances. James Cagney in an early film called Angels with dirty faces had a chance to reform the minds of many inner city youth. I believe Guy can and will help change the very streets he devastated. Guy is a living testament to all black men that what goes up must come down and living through fire builds character and redefines judgement. Guy only has one way to live from now on and that is to live right. I am trying to do what I can also to help our young black males to be deterred from the unforgiving penal system. I remember some awesome times when Guy’s presence made a difference in New York City. God Bless Him!

lamont said on December 8th, 2008

Let hm go!!! everyone has sinned and is he’s a better man now then only god can judge him and let him be free!!!

tonia williams said on December 8th, 2008

The man has changed. Everyone should forget about nicky “go somewhere and sit down” barnes. Free Guy Fisher. He’s living proof that people can change. God bless him!

Pastor said on December 8th, 2008

I knew the Guy Fisher of old and I thank God for the word “change”. I do believe as the Bible says whatever a man sows he must reap. The jury found that Guy Fisher was guilty of all charges WITH THE EXECEPTION OF CONSPIRACY TO MURDER. So if Guy did not sow murder why shall he reap life in prison until he die. I always believed that the purpose of incarceration was to correct a person’s behavior and that’s why jails are called correctional facilities. Therefore, the Bureau of Federal Prisons should give themselves a round of applause when it comes to the case of Dr. Fisher and all the Brothers in the Book called ‘Reality From Within’. If you seen the same show on BET that I seen you would have to agree that Dr. Guy Thomas Fisher is not the same man he was 26 years ago and that he has something positive to offer to our youths today that think that being a street thug or selling drugs is what it’s all about. As I can recall, in the airing of American Gangster one of the interviewers mentioned – I believe it was the artist Ralph McDonald stated that he heard Guy Fisher tell a young man not to be like him but instead to be like Ralph. Another interviewer mentioned that he went to Guy and was trying to express in a round about way that he wanted to be involved in making illegal money and he was scolded by Guy for even suggesting that he wanted to be illegal when he had every chance in the world to be legitimate and not put himself in jeorpardy of going to prison.
One might ask what am I trying to say? The answer is this..If we believe the jury– that Guy was guilty of racketeering and sent him to prison for life why can’t we also believe the jury’s verdict that Guy Fisher is NOT A MURDERER!! And if the jury feels he’s not a murderer by releasing him then who is he a threat to?????
In my summary, what are facts we’re faced with…..A REFORMED MAN, WHO HAS MORE THAN PAID HIS DEBT TO SOCIETY, WHO HAS WELL EDUCATED HIMSELF, WHO HAS A MESSAGE FOR THE YOUTH OF AMERICA THAT CRIME DOES NOT PAY AND WHO IS WILLING TO ABIDE BY LAWS OF THE LAND……WHY NOT FREE DR. GUY THOMAS FISHER?
I want to thank BET for this particular airing of American Gangster. It was the best that I have seen and it leaves one to think is it really worth it to violate the laws of the land and also because you make a mistake in life you don’t have to continue falling down but you can pick yourself up and turn your life around and become a production person in society (in Guy’s case even in prison)

Dee said on December 11th, 2008

I got alot of respect guy fisher,he was a real stand up dude,he didnt go out like a snitch.Him and frank mathew was harlems true gangstas,alpo and alot of them other niggas went out like cowards…

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FLORENCE said on December 12th, 2008

I would like to thank so many people for writing and sending me so many positive comments for Guy and about Guy and he is receiveing them all, he is also writing something to everybody this week thanking them, for all of the love he is getting I want to personally thank Mr Mark Rowland and everyone who has seen this show, should thank him also he had the patience and the vision to see this story that we all felt in our hearts about Guy, and it took us 26 years to talk about it because of the love me and my family and friends have for Guy . so for now I want to also thank all of Guy ’s Friends who sat down and open up their hearts and show the love that they did on that show , Gary, Terry, Pos, Kenny, Ralph, Hank, and both of his lawyers Paul Goldberger, Robert Gombiner .and if you want to get any information please go to http://www.mtubooks.com Florence Fisher Lacy

pbs said on December 12th, 2008

I KNEW GUY AND NICKY BACK IN THE 1970′S WHILE ATTENDING CITY COLLEGE.. GUY WAS BY FAR THE BETTER MAN…

dorrian norris said on December 18th, 2008

To: Doctor Guy Thomas Fisher

you were always a gentleman and treated me with the utmost respect. I;m so proud that you have turned your life around. I feel there is no one more qualified than you, who could tell the young wannabes about the paths they’re choosing, and where it will lead. I pray for your freedom and will support the fight for your release. You have been gone to long. With the deepest and utmost respect. Dorrian L. Norris, Investigator, NYPD

warren s. said on December 19th, 2008

Barnes should of handled that situation much differently. i understand why he did it but still

kerry said on December 19th, 2008

SET GUY FISHER FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AG.* said on December 21st, 2008

I PERSONALLY THINK HE WAS A VERY EDUCATED MAN. I CAN SAY OUT OF ALL THE 3 SEASONS I’VE WATCHED, AND I’VE WATCHED 90% OF THEM, I LIKE HIS STORY THE BEST. HE WAS LIKE THE REALEST EVER. VERY INTELLIGENT AND HE FOLLOWED THE CODE, A VERY TOUGH MAN THAT YOU CANT BREAK. WELL HE IS AN INSPIRATION TO ME. HE SEEMS LIKE HE EXPECTS NOTHING LESS THAN THE BEST FROM EVERYBODY AND I TOOK THAT OUT OF HIS EPISODE….FREE GUY “GENTLEMAN GANGSTER” FISHER…!:D

debra said on December 22nd, 2008

I SAW THE SHOW ON GUY FISHER, AND I MUST SAY I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT ANYBODY CAN MAKE IT , NO MATTER WHAT ROADBLOCKS ARE IN THEIR PATH.
GUY, YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOURSELF. YOU ARE A SHINNING EXAMPLE OF WHAT A MAN CAN DO WHEN HE PUTS HIS MIND TO IT. JUDGING FROM THE COMMMENTS ON THIS PAGE, I CAN SEE YOU HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNITY PULLING AND PRAYING FOR YOU.
BE STRONG , WHICH I KNOW YOU WILL. . YOUR TIME WILL COME AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOU WILL BE HOME.

John said on December 23rd, 2008

I think the talk of snitching and not snitching is crazy. Why are those who break the law surprised when their cohorts provide information on them? If you chose do the crime, then be prepared for everything that comes with it, EVERYTHING! Face it, honor amongst thieves goes only so far. So, what did Dr. Fisher expect? Truth only honors the honorable, all others find it to be a dishonor.
The fact that he himself did not “snitched” was some badge of honor for some, but not to me. For the lives that he, Nicky Barnes, Frank Lucus, and other dealers ruined, I feel that they have not even gotten what they should deserved. Families and communities destroyed, all for what? To snitch or not to snitch?
While black communities continue to spiral downward toward becoming expendable wastelands, and the literacy level of Black men become measurable by how many rap songs and words one can recite, the greatest question that we are still kicking around in the Black community is “To snitch or not to snitch?”
Dr. Fisher is to be admired for his personal complishments in prison, and that cannot be minimized, but let us not bestow the status of hero upon him, yet, please?
Perhaps there are those who know, far better than I , the great good that Dr. Fisher might have done out in the world during his drug dealing days, but is the damage that was done by him and the other drug dealers to us, as a people, outweighed by the good? It can be good to remember that, just because God forgives us of our sins does not mean we will not have to suffer the consequences of them.

sophia albelo said on December 31st, 2008

I would like to send my warmest regards to Florence(WoWo)Fisher and her lovely family who were always good to me and showed me much love.I have recently found out about the Guy Fisher story from my son who is presently serving a ten year sentence in a Federal Prison. I can sincerely say that this story about Guy has touched me deeply. Although, it was many years ago I will always remember his love for his family. His story is indeed an inspiration and an enlightment to the many challenges of innercity life. A must read especially for all the young men caught up in the game. It would be so nice to hear from my dear friend. Sincerely, Dot

Kenny said on January 1st, 2009

I dont see why people idolize Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas. What people need to understand is that success is when preparation meets opporrtunity. Anybody could of did what them clowns did with a little organization, but they didnt think there %*#? stunk and as a result got life behind bars and still got the nerve to glorify the %*#?. Now Guy is no better but at least He is reformed and I do believe that He could make a difference. One other person said that there is no honor among thieves but to me snitchin is wrong if you are apart of the crime. You tow the line and you dont straddle the fence for noone

18parkDarlene said on January 2nd, 2009

I want to write a book about my experience with mr.fisher very smart very intriging I wonder how steve is if he is alive I went to nyc to visit and ran into some of the old friends I walked through 18 park and I became stuck in the past nyc will never be the same god bless you for not giving up on your dreams I remember you saying that this is not what life is all about back then and I didn’t catch it . now I do ; the sky is the limit when you come home I will be the first one to purchase a ticket to hear you speak live and in person give me a reason to come back to NYC.you told me once a long time ago that I had a sucker who loved me and you know what to do with a sucker I remembered oh so long ago,but just the other day. god b less darleneNYC18park

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J. Rick Scott said on January 8th, 2009

Like many other bloggers, I grew up in Paterson Projects, I went to school with Guy, Wilbur Steptoe, Fat Kenny and Joe and Henry Ratti. I’ve always admired Guy for the things that he did under the radar for the community.The last time I saw Guy was on 148th and College he came there to pay off a debt that one of his boyz had incurred by ramming my car. Guy spoke briefly about the old days and then reached into his trunk and gave me the $ 1100.00 to pay for the damages. Whether it was because we had grown up together or not he had the courtesy to take care of a bill that he didn’t have to.
Today I’m a Juvenile Probation Officer, at times I utilize the services of former, gang bangers, drug users and some convicted felons to work with me in helping a younger generation steer a straight course. Guy Fisher would prove to be an immense attribute to giving our youth a chance to learn the consequences of an ill advised course of life.
Presidential pardons have been handed out to notorious characters who have raped and pilaged the poor of this country maybe with the grace of God Guy Fisher may be the reciprient of such a pardon due to his definite rehabilitation.

gina leigh said on January 15th, 2009

from owning the famous apollo theatre to life in prison… what a dunce… and the family want to sing him praise… i’ll bet they say “he’s innocent”…. the audacity of him obtaining a phd at the tax payers expense…. shame!!!!

Aunkmaa said on January 15th, 2009

“from owning the famous apollo theatre to life in prison… what a dunce… and the family want to sing him praise… i’ll bet they say “he’s innocent”…. the audacity of him obtaining a phd at the tax payers expense…. shame!!!!

Gina! be cool, what do you want him to do in Prison? He has every right to get an Education, I do not agree with the praising of his past life nor the vilification of Nicky Barnes because I still do not know both sides of that story but he has demonstrated the power from within by what he has achieved. Check yourself my friend you are far TOO JUDGMENTAL!!!

mona said on January 24th, 2009

Some advise for the makers of American Gangster please look into Rich Alpo and AZ story. Look into Wayne Perry who was a hitman and also an associate of Rayful Edmond and Alberto Martinez (Alpo) This will be a classic and sad American Gangster story.

fred said on January 28th, 2009

when does guy fisher come on again?

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VL said on February 19th, 2009

What school did Guy Fisher Receive his PHD from?

Ama said on February 27th, 2009

I never heard of this guy. I did see that Playthell Benjamin was interviewed as a part of this documentary. I can’t believe that anybody would have consulted that piece of garbage about anything. Did they know that his profile was on DDHG.com and that there’s a blog about him? Did they know that his daughter is a prostitute?

Mac said on March 5th, 2009

Guy Fisher Doesnt need second chance . he deserves to rott in prison till he die.Amen

CTW said on March 15th, 2009

I hope all persons that stood in judgement of Dr. Guy Thomas Fisher
are perfect people and have never sinned! For the Bible tells us that :
1. ALL UN-RIGHTEOUSNESS is SIN!
2. There are no Big or Little Sins in the eyes of the Lord, they all are
judged equally by Him!

I know that if you found yourself incarcerated, you would want to recieve favor
One person said that there is consequence to sin, that being said, Dr.
Fisher has paid the price and while paying the price he proved to the world
that all things are possible, once you have a made-up mind!

To the negative minds, I pray that God would touch your hearts with compassion .so should hard times be fall you, someone would have compassion on you!

Fab said on March 17th, 2009

all your jouranl very interwsting, it was much interesting for me..

Erica said on March 17th, 2009

I found the Guy Fisher story very inspirational. He is such a testament to the potential of black men in America. From drug kingpin to a PhD. This man has alot to offer to society and black youth. He understands the mistakes he made and has paid his debt to society! Let that man out!

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Ars said on March 19th, 2009

it’se not usual to read these stories, thanks

Blogis said on March 19th, 2009

let’s start to read btwen the worxs..

carmen said on March 25th, 2009

HI FLORENCE PLEASE SEND GUY MY LOVE, HE HAS TOUCH MY HEART IN SO MANY WAYS, GOD BLESSED HIM WITH HIS WISDOM TO INSPIRE OUR YOUTHS OF TODAY. I WILL PRAY FOR HIS SPEEDY RELEASE AND UPCOMMING ENDEVORS TO BE FULLFILLING WITH ALL THE HAPPIENESS THAT FREEDOM AND LIFE HAS TO OFFER. MAY GOD KEEP YOU AND YOUR FAMILY…. ALWAYS CARMEN FROM JERSEY LOL

Rachelle Reid (United Kingdom) said on April 3rd, 2009

Me and My husband watched American Gangster on BET twice it was real touching to see a negative do a 360 degree turn to an outstanding Positive. Yes Guy has paid his dues and it needs to be recognised that he is amodern day Icon that can relate to our brothers today caught up in this confused World, Obama is here now my question is can he Pardon Guy if so that would be a good thing.* Much Love

shania holley said on April 16th, 2009

Im inspired by you and the work that you have accomplished in your stay and would like to say that you are a real gentalmen and did some positive things that really mean alot to a person like myself whom had to get over some hurdle. I feel that GUY has paid his dues and be recognized for his success in getting the message over to people that care.

sean harrighton said on April 16th, 2009

Im inspired by you and the work that you have accomplished in your stay and would like to say that you are a real gentalmen and did some positive things that really mean alot to a person like myself whom had to get over some hurdle. I feel that GUY has paid his dues and be recognized for his success in getting the message over to people that care.

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bronzen said on May 30th, 2009

I just watched American Gangster on the Guy Fisher story and I must say very intriquing indeed. I am so impressed that he has built his status in prison as Dr. Fisher and I feel that he is a living testament as well as a mentor to the young. Sometimes mishaps in life erupts to show that some good can turn out and to whomever fall can be a productive of their environment but can live to tell a story that can prevent our youth from turning out the same way. Dr. Fisher was put on this earth for a reason no matter what he has done in his life but his testament will save a lot of youths from straying and getting back on track once they are released from prison and may prevent others from going to prison. I just ordered my books to today and is anxious to receive them both, the (vicious circle and the reality within).

gaspar vetrano said on May 31st, 2009

guy fisher who I met through ricky dukes was one of the most down to earth people I have ever met. he has done more then enough time. hell if he was white like me he would have been out years ago, my conviction was on par with his for herion distribution and I was out in 4 years. guy I wish u luck

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