Forgive or Die?
Posted November 18, 2007 
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Are Black people overly paranoid, or are we justified in thinking “The Man” is out to get us? This week Dr. Ian Smith and his guests — fitness expert Donna Richardson Joyner, Dr. Jeff Gardner and pediatrician Dr. Corey Herbert — take an emotional look back at historical injustices against Blacks; and of it’s time to let bygones be bygones. What do you think?
I watched your show today on health in the black community and I was compelled to purchase the book mentioned on the show (Things You Show Know – Black Women). I don’t recall the name exactly. Is there a section on your site with a list of books discussed on your show?
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I watch your show today and the mention of “the man is out to get us” and how African Americans do not got to the hospital to seek medical care. I will like to explain to you that the real issue is not that they do not like to go to the hospital to get medical care or to the doctor for prevention care and all that. Consider the percentage of blacks that are actually employed in jobs that provide for medical and other forms of health insurance. In a country where the first think you get asked in a doctor’s office is you insurance card – how does one even consider going to see a doctor without insurance. I think this is the core of the problem and nothing else -
Black women and men are too fat. Time was we were healthy. Too much fast food, stress and not enough exercise. Push away from the table and you will be okay.
Forgive or Die?
You can forgive and you shall, but you don’t have to die to continue to fight for justice. I don’t know what those professional people are thinking, but are they seeing the black children going to jail? Do they see Jena 6 or the young man sent to prison for two years for having sex with a white teenage practically his age? How about the young black men who are getting shot yearly by police. Did they see the young man being strangled on video in the boot camp? The jury aquitted the boot camp employees and the nurse who sat there and watch. Did they see that? Yes, forgive is devine but please don’t be ignorant of the fact that we still need professional strong black people to help those who are less fortunate. I feel we do not possess any srong black professional because they are afraid to loose their jobs and that is understandable. We are going to get justice and the fight come from the people who are not afraid.
WITH THE LAST COMMENT I AGREE SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WHITE AMERICA SEES US (AFRICAN AMERICANS)AS A THREAT. WHY? WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO THEM. WE DID NOT KIDNAP THEM FROM THEIR HOME LAND WE DID NOT USE THEM AS CATTLE TO ENRICH OUR LIVES WE DID NOT SELL THEIR OFF SPRING OR HANG THEM FROM TREES OR ACCIDENTLY SHOOT THEIR CHILDREN 11 TIMES CAUSE THEY WERE CArrying a hair brush that we thaught was a gun. yet our people more than ever want to be embraced by these very people . as long as we live in this country and don’t worry they are really working over time to change that by racial profilling mixing with our race for watered down versions of what we were. by jailing our men and leaving us women to raise our children alone. by making t he black man believethat the white women is the ultimate prize when 400 yrs ago all you had to do was look at one and youy were hanging from a tree. but mostly i think we are own worst enemy we allow this to happen right under our noes accept for the hand full who knows what is going on and work to change it. we as people need to stop giving,and loading and pretty much firing the amunition for the white man and it starts with the black man read your history understand that all the men that came before you were beaten and hung and killed for you to have the right too sleep with white women and rap your dirty rap lyrics that don’t talk about our history or struggle but putting into our young peoples head that all that matters is the bling. we as a people use to be more. we can’t as much as i would like to blame them the (man) for every thing that has happened in the black community but we must take responesibility that they could not have gotten away with as much as they have without our help. we really need to acknowledge this and then own then change it. look into our hearts and help ourselves and stop selling each other out. and stand together as god intended it
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As I listened to the discussion regarding the percentage of african american women being much higher than that of hispanic and white women. I agree that we must begin to focus on developing a lifestyle of health, however, it can be difficult to incorporate. Many black women have lifestyles that do not compare to that of other women. First, the majority of black women are responsible for their families. They do not have a nanny or a cleaning lady, and may not even have a husband or baby’s father who ACTIVELY participates in raising the children. Most single female parents have to get the children fed in the morning and off to school. They then catch a bus or wait in traffic to go to work. They work all day and then take the same route home. They are responsible for picking up the children from day car before 6 pm, shutlling kids to football or band practice, cooking dinner, helping with home work, preparing clothing for the next day of school, bathing the children, giving them some attention tucking them in bed, reading notes from the teacher, nursing sick kids (hoping they will be well by morning so that they don’t have to call off work), and then they are exhausted. Where is the black father in all of this? Maybe he is there, in an easy chair waiting for dinner wih a remote in hand, or maybe he is ABSENT. Absent physically and financially. A white woman has a man to help out financially so that she can get off at 5pm and go to the gym (if she works at all), because the husband or nanny will pick up the kids. Black women don’t have time for the gym! A single black parent’s “me time” falls around 10:00 or 11:00 at night, when she prays to God for keeping her family healthy and meeting the needs for the day and praying for strength to face tomorrow. By the way, in a single parent household the food choices are “foods that stretch” spaghetti, chicken and rice, chicken and noodles, chili, salmon and rice with brocolli maybe green beans, because kids need lunch money! Our men need to step up and help us out. Maybe we can go to the gym and join our hispanic and caucasian sisters in keeping our weight down and living healthy lives.
Racisms is still strong and present in this country. Now it has become more institutionalized and less overt. The establishment has appeased us by letting a few get ahead and make it. This helped to pit us against each other and changed many forms of racism to classism. After seperating the haves and have nots they pumped drugs into our community to paralyze those who may have had a chance of advancing. This has created prey and predator situation in our community so that we feed off of each, making their job even easier. They have made us adopt their values, but the system has been set up to make sure that even though we may have their values and goals we (as a people) can’t reach their successes. All of the emphasis on bling and prosperity is a result of this, the question is how do we overcome this. We no longer have a common cause. Jim Crow and KKK ruled only 60 or so years ago. There are still many people of that generation alive and many of the offspring, so these racist ideals are still prevelant they’ve just gotten better at hiding them and teaching us how to keep ourselves down.
I agree black women have busy stressful lives. But we have to learn to take time for ourselves and take care of ourselves. That means exercising, even it is walking, watching a exercise DVD or stretching and doing pushups with the kids at home. NO MORE EXCUSES.
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